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Tyler 00:00
content warning. Although this is a podcast about kids movies, this podcast isn't for kids and may contain content some people find offensive
Misha 00:24
Welcome to Much Abu About Nothing a podcast where Tyler and I watch and review Disney movies, animated Disney movies going in alphabetical order and score them and rank them and it's based on absolutely nothing. Indeed.
Tyler 00:42
And welcome everybody. I'm Tyler, one of your hosts.
Misha 00:47
I'm your other host Misha. Hi, Tyler.
Tyler 00:50
Hi. Hi and everybody else I'm doing okay. Today
Misha 00:54
I'm a beauty.
Tyler 00:55
Yeah,
Misha 00:56
I took a shower. One check two eyeliner, three. A little blush on my face for foundation. I don't even know how to tell you about this. Oh my god.
Tyler 01:08
I was not good to myself. I went for a long walk in the sun and forgot to put on sunscreen. So I did not do myself. I didn't do my skin itself.
Misha 01:18
Yep. Sun without sunscreen for white people. Not that. Yeah.
Tyler 01:22
Especially pasty pasty people like me. But that's not what we're here to talk about. We can talk about my peace students and other day. We are here to come up again to might come up again. You never know because spoiler. The true beast is a pasty motherfucker. But we'll get to that. Okay, speaking of which we are talking about Yeah, yeah. Tyler during the beasts.
Misha 01:45
The animated 9091 version.
Tyler 01:48
Yeah, not the French John Cocteau version from the 40s.
Misha 01:51
Or the Hermione version from the 2000s.
Tyler 01:55
Her myeni version? I made a live action version of this movie. Yeah. Yeah, I've Oh, speaking of which, like, a
Misha 02:04
few minutes, and then was like, I gotta turn this off. Yeah. So
Tyler 02:07
last night. I against your orders. I started watching the newer Alice in Wonderland. And you know, and I made it like, I think five or one. Yeah, I made it like, probably like seven to 10 minutes in and then I just had to stop. It's really bad. Yeah, yeah. And it doesn't look good, either. Like the CGI is really rough. And anyway, we're here to talk about another gorgeous classic Disney film because we talked about Bambi Yes, recently. And now we're talking about this one. We've got some categories those those that are new to the show. We rank these movies on originality, story, animation, music and sound. The protagonist side kicks if there are any villain, henchmen, strong female lead bipoc representations slash portrayal and fun factor. Those are our categories. And then we have like negative points or if it doesn't sit right, positive points for that. effervescent Disney magic. So as we usually do, do you want to give us the plot summary? Me?
Misha 03:18
Yes. But before I get into that, I have a little bit of a surprise, you know, to drink. Yep. Alcohol, and I made myself a beauty cocktail. There's a straw because there's so much shit floating and I couldn't drink out of the wine glass as it is. It is Rosae Oh, with rose water and rose petals and strawberries and it's my Belle cocktail. My beauty cocktail.
Tyler 03:45
It is. It's really pretty nice. Yeah. Classy. The Straw is hilariously long. We say long star tall straw. Long, right? Yeah. Okay, I'm
Misha 03:57
straw. Yeah, extra long straw Johnson.
Tyler 04:01
He drew the long straw. He drew the shorts. Yeah,
Misha 04:03
I can't. There's already okay. Yeah. It's very rose watery. Perhaps too much rosewater. It's hard because a little bit goes a long way. And I'm pouring it right out of the bottle. And then I realized, Oh, that was a big splash. But whatever. There
Tyler 04:19
was this contestant on one of the Master Chef seasons that like everything was hedgerows. Rosewater and
Misha 04:24
too much. Yeah, but he was
Tyler 04:27
like this sweet old Indian man or an old is relative. He was I think in his late 40s or 50s. So sweet, not far off. Not far off. I'm gonna start putting rosewater and everything.
Misha 04:39
Yeah, all right. What
Tyler 04:40
happens in Beauty and the Beast.
Misha 04:43
Okay, so Beauty and the Beast is about a spoiled prints, which we'll get to. Oh, yeah, a lot of comments on the opening. Oh, yeah. This prints. He gets cursed by this way. or Enchantress, and he's doomed to be a beast like a monstrous beast until unless he's able to get somebody fall in love with him. Fast forward to who knows how long 10 years later? Well? No, it's not. 10 years later, do they say that?
Tyler 05:20
I believe so? Yeah, no. Okay.
Misha 05:23
We have problems, but we'll get to it. Holy shit. Do they really say 10 years later, we've got problems. Okay. So Bella and her father are living in a small provincial town. And she's bored and guest on wants to marry her. Oh, yeah. isn't like guest on. And then the dad goes to sell his invention whose wood splitter invention has woodchopper and then gets lost in the forest. I have comments about that, too. And then And then, without his horse Felipe at this castle that he just stumbles upon. And it turns out, it's the beasts castle and the Beast imprisons him. And then Belle goes to find him, she offers her self instead to let her father go. It's a story about Stockholm Syndrome. Long story short, the kidnapper, Stockholm Syndrome is Belle into loving him. And the curse is broken. But before the curse is broken guest on hatches his plan to force Belle into marrying him. It obviously doesn't work because belt is a strong female lead coming out later. And that I mean, only sort of actually. Yeah, well,
Tyler 06:45
we'll get into it for sure.
Misha 06:49
And then he dies sort of accidentally but like, you know, he needs to go because he's awful. And then the beast, his curse is lifted and he turns into 80s Eric Roberts from so the best the 1989 Karate movie. Oh, yeah.
Tyler 07:11
Yeah, that that I think hits everything. Except for the well we'll get into it. But the the lovely other denizens of the castle.
Misha 07:18
Well, that's, well, yes, that is part of the plot, but it's kind of like,
Tyler 07:23
we'll get there. Get there.
Misha 07:24
Yeah, so there.
Tyler 07:26
Yeah, we've got a lot to talk about with this movie. It's gonna be I think it's gonna be a controversial episode. But we'll see. I think so too. Let's start with originality. Not
Misha 07:38
original based on a French novel. There have been many not many. But there have been some adaptations read doings however you say it of this before the animated movie. Yeah, exactly.
Tyler 07:51
The original author, by the way, I believe was a woman, which is cool.
Misha 07:57
A woman can write. Yeah,
Tyler 07:58
woman can write. Welcome to well in well think of it like this in 1750s. Women weren't usually given the option to publish in many countries. And if they did, they had a male pseudonym, like, like George Eliot an 1800s. Yeah, so I thought that was cool.
Misha 08:15
I mean, yeah, it is cool. Why we're here. That's why we're here rating the originality of 18th century French female author.
Tyler 08:27
And I think also, as far as I remember reading last week, although I could be getting this wrong now that I'm saying it out loud. Disney wanted to do this story earlier, but they couldn't quite get it. Right. And then John Cocteau came out with the the French version. And then so they it got sort of delayed and delayed and then picked up after a little mermaid was a huge success. Yeah, so it's not really original. At all. I mean, I think it probably deserves like, it's just the Yeah, I mean, it's it's less original than than Bambi. I think. So. It's probably a one as well. Like we can be in Wonderland.
Misha 09:02
I mean, yeah. Original name translates to Beauty and the Beast. Exactly.
Tyler 09:06
Yeah. Yeah. What is I think even the Brothers Grimm had a version in their tails, but I can't remember. heard that somewhere. But they stole it from the French I believe. Story. What do you what did you think? Oh, sorry, Misha. Okay, you kind of hinted at some of your feelings about it in the
Misha 09:27
I did in the in the synopsis. So it is a story about Stockholm Syndrome, right?
Tyler 09:34
Yeah, it's for those who maybe don't yeah, don't know what that is. Sure.
Misha 09:37
Stockholm Syndrome is when a person who's held captive ends up falling for either romantically or empathizes with their captor. And so it's not cool that Disney would be like this great thing, right? Like oh, happily ever after, but she was in prison. And because it's a kid's movie, we don't know what else happened. Yeah, like between them. And I don't want to. I don't want to guess, of any whoring butt or anything. I don't know. Like, I get the Yeah, there was probably was any art. Wow that but I do think there was blinking in fact I'm hoping there was and we'll get to my feelings about everybody I shouldn't see that.
Tyler 10:32
That's interesting, I don't think yeah, I don't know if there would be any any whoring as you said. I don't know if because like the beast for a lot of it. I don't know. I mean, I guess it's really like, he doesn't want anything to do with her. He's like he, you know in office for a long time. For the first time. Yeah,
Misha 10:52
I don't think he's standoffish. I think he's just a jerk and has no idea how to handle his emotions. So let's roll back the clock of the of the plot. Okay. We're going back to the very beginning. So the old had goes to the castle, answer me this. Why would the prince open the his own door to his castle?
Tyler 11:12
Yeah, there's that and also. Yeah. Did you have
Misha 11:17
I have more? I have so much more. Okay. So
Tyler 11:21
there's that first? Later? Yeah, so
Misha 11:24
the narrow target Narrator goes. Although he had everything his heart desired. The prince was spoiled, selfish and unkind. Oh. Have you ever met anybody who hasn't had everything they wanted and aren't spoiled and selfish? You're saying this like it's a show? Oh my gosh. What if you're rich, you're spoiled. If you grew up a prince, you're like selfish. Oh my god. I can't believe it. So that is a problem. My head. Yeah.
Tyler 11:52
Also, the motherfucker is 11 years old. No, wait,
Misha 11:56
stop when he answers the door. That's what I'm saying. It'll bloom until his 21st year. So he's only 21 At the end of the movie. Yeah. When did they say 10 years?
Tyler 12:10
I'm pretty sure right after now. I can't. I'm pretty sure canonically he's 11 I'm gonna I'm gonna look it up again really quick. So I
Misha 12:18
was like, so I was thinking, What is he? 17? Is he like, I don't know. It's just what? 11 year old prince isn't an asshole. Yeah. And
Tyler 12:27
like, I mean, kids are sweet. And not every kid is a horrible person. But you know, often they are very selfish. And you know, I'm pretty sure. Maybe it does. I mean, maybe it doesn't, but I thought it said 10 years later,
Misha 12:44
he looked like an adult in the stained glass.
Tyler 12:46
He did. But a lot of yeah, a lot of like European depictions of
Misha 12:52
babies. Look like men. Right?
Tyler 12:56
Well, yeah, cuz they suck. They suck at drawing in the medieval times. But also just like the king might have been gotten the kingdom as a teen but in the hagiography and depiction of kings and queens. They often were made to look more regal, and more adult than they really were. So also just like people suck to drawing babies. So like, if you look at any any Byzantine Jesus looks like, like Danny DeVito.
Misha 13:22
Alien. Yeah.
Tyler 13:26
So I'm pretty sure okay, we can get get at us, like in the emails in the social media, but I'm pretty sure he's 11 with me,
Misha 13:33
okay. In the Disney animated version. We don't know how old he is when it starts and we don't know the amount of time that passes Correct.
Tyler 13:42
No, I'm pretty sure we do like, like canonically okay, we need to pause and figure this out. Okay. We need to like pause. Alright, we're coming. We're gonna come back in a second and double check this everybody. Get we're back, folks. It's been great. Lumiere says the castle has been cursed for 10 years. Ah,
Misha 14:05
so somewhere else in the movie where I
Tyler 14:08
wasn't. So yeah, like, is it so he's 11
Misha 14:11
She's expecting an 11 year old to give her shelter. It's so so imagine a stranger coming to your house wherever you live, whatever kind of Abode you're and being like, Oh, I'll pay you with the fuck off close the door and then you're cursed as an 11 year old.
Tyler 14:28
There's, there's a there's like a story about Jesus where he is I don't remember if it's actually in the Bible, or if it's just one of those things that's posted on social media all the time where like a beggar came to the door. And it was actually Jesus like what are these fucking magical people who are testing everybody all the time?
Misha 14:46
Also, not no go to a church, or I don't know a shelter or like how do I know you're not going to come in and rape and murder me and steal all my shit. I'm Yeah, exactly. But like don't hurt my pets either. Yeah, I don't know what this stranger is up to.
Tyler 15:06
So this lady, this is a horrible person. Yeah. And she, okay. Yeah, so the 11 year who knows? Like maybe he, you know, had a huge pimple and it was hurting his face and then she knocks on the door and he's like in a bad mood and just says go away. I've got a pimple. You know, who knows?
Misha 15:23
11 year olds don't have big pimples yet. Hmm. Maybe
Tyler 15:27
he's maybe he's, I don't know, like people grew up fairly. Where people grew up fast. That's
Misha 15:32
true. They do grow up fast. That's what he should have let her in that way, you
Tyler 15:35
know, I mean, it's not his responsibility. It's the king and queen or it's the major Domos responsibility it's fucking it's Oh, no major domo is what Cogsworth is the person who's dama it's like the head of the house like and somebody who speaks for the master when the master is not there. What is this word? You're saying? major domo? It's a word.
Misha 16:01
No, Domo.
Tyler 16:03
You've never heard of the word major demo. It is a funny word.
Misha 16:06
Is it in the song like Mr. Roboto? No, that's Domo arigato. That's
Tyler 16:11
Japanese. No, that's
Misha 16:13
Japanese. But it's okay. I'm sorry. That song is not all Japanese. So I can't expect it to be accurate. So I thought maybe they would just have major domo in there somewhere.
Tyler 16:26
Yeah, it's like the the head steward of the house makes, you know, is in charge of it. Not like the head. Butler. But in many houses. It might this might be one time
Misha 16:36
when I was doing fundraising for fundraising calls for a nonprofit. I called like, one of the numbers on the list. And the guy was like, hello, this is the house man. And I was like, I don't know. I don't know what this is. And I was, I was like, wait, what? Turns out people in New York City have Houseman who are major Domos I guess,
Tyler 16:57
comes from major of the domicile? Uh, yeah, so Cogsworth should have opened the doors. consorts fault that the basis cars. Yeah, and then in turn, all of them are cursed. I don't get that either. Why is the whole house curses because this kid was a brat. That also doesn't make you
Misha 17:14
curse the whole castle. Listen, I know. No. Look, I love the look of the castle when it's cursed. Oh, sure. Yeah, when it's like fix the grotesques inside out. I fucking love all of it. I want creepy grotesques lining my hallways. Not that I have space in my normal sized house. That's not a castle. Very cool. I like a creepy castle more than a white Princess fairytale castle
Tyler 17:40
agreed. Although I think we can still say that this lady's a bitch. This enchanting?
Misha 17:45
Yeah. Cursing an 11 year old for not letting a stranger in but not even like
Tyler 17:50
cursing everyone. Like, yeah. Where his parents? Well, who knows? Maybe the parents are dead, but they're gone and chip the child.
Misha 18:00
When did he be the king if his dad was dead? Isn't that how things work?
Tyler 18:04
That is how things work? Usually. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there are a lot of unanswered questions in this. And also, there's just the big massive thing that is Stockholm syndrome that happens. It's the major driving plot device. Okay.
Misha 18:17
Also, I want to say if let's skip through, like let's move through the story. So Maurice, the dad, who by the way reminds me of my own dad sometimes like when he learned from under his invention with the big goggles on I was like, okay, that's my dad, the big mustache that like bald on top. Well, little chubbiness going on. Although my dad's a lot taller, he's like
Tyler 18:39
your dad is is a giant. He's very tall. Yeah. Yeah.
Misha 18:46
But anyway, when he's in the forest with Felipe and Felipe's, like, obviously, we're not taking the scary route. And he's like, come on, come on. And then later he blames Felipe and goes, where have you taken us? Felipe? I was like up let you know what, don't blame the horse the horse to go the other way. No wonder he left you behind, because you are making terrible decisions. And now here you are. Your daughter has been kidnapped Stockholm, not well. She technically wasn't killed. She was imprisoned. She
Tyler 19:15
voluntarily imprisoned her herself. But yeah, right. So what do we think like point wise for this? I mean, are there any other big beefs you wanted to talk about with the story?
Misha 19:27
Oh, my God, the entire thing. Yeah. I feel like this is it's like there's so okay. Where does guest on get all his money from?
Tyler 19:35
My guess is he? Well, first off, do we know he has a lot of money?
Misha 19:40
Yes. Because when the asylum worker and him are making the deal, he throws down a huge sack of coins. Yeah. And then he and the guy was like off for this much like and he's like, I'll make it worth your while or whatever. So obviously, he's got enough money to throw around. Yeah, he hired a band that He didn't even know he would use he set up this whole wedding. without, like, to me, it seems like it's pretty obvious. He's got some money.
Tyler 20:09
Here's my thinking about guests on. He goes through life, like the Jon Hamm character in 30 Rock, like everybody thinks he's amazing and so handsome. So he just gets whatever he wants, I would I would see him just like, he's a hunter, and maybe he gets money from that. But in this this time, and in this small village, he probably doesn't make a lot of money. My guess is he just like, gets other people to do what he wants and like that money was probably his cronies, money or something. That's how I see guest on is like a massive, like freeloader, who gets whatever. Okay, that's my hot take. It's a theory. It's a hypothesis.
Misha 20:49
I like that. Because he doesn't seem to do anything besides hunt.
Tyler 20:53
Yeah, if he were rich, he wouldn't be slumming it with with the with the villagers and like trying to always look cool in front of them. Probably he would. You'd be up for hunting in his own estate. Probably. That's
Misha 21:05
a good point. And he might not live there where he could get have better prospects. Like so obsessed with bail? Maybe you'd find somebody just as pretty who's stupid.
Tyler 21:15
Yeah. And his whole Yeah, his whole obsession with Bail is absurd. Not that she's not a catch. But like, he's just in love with himself and, and she doesn't like him. So it's like, it's another hunt. He wants what he can have. Yeah. And we'll get more to guest on later. But yeah, I'm
Misha 21:31
like, kinda, it's so I like the story. Except that it's obviously super unhealthy. That she's his prisoner and falls in love with him. Yeah. And it's like, that's the whole thing. He like she is a prisoner. She's not a house guest even though they saying Be our guest. She is a prisoner. She's not allowed to leave. And he lets her go. And like, yeah, she comes back. But Stockholm Syndrome is kicked in by then. He's like manipulating her getting her presents to like, I don't know. Yeah. And yeah, all of the castle household. Things are facilitating this, like, manipulation.
Tyler 22:18
Yeah, cuz they don't want to be cursed anymore. So they're like pushing this marriage.
Misha 22:21
Why didn't they just why didn't they just tell her? Like, why didn't he just say like, Please don't be scared. I'm sorry. This is what's happening. I've like been put under this curse. Can you just like I invite you and your father to stay here? Look, I have like, this unfucked unbelievable Castle you can live in? Because
Tyler 22:41
he's been. He's been. He's been a monster for 10 years. It's probably messed with his head. He hasn't developed Why don't mean, obviously all of
Misha 22:51
okay, no social skills. adolescent years. Yeah. His preteen teen adolescent years are all spent alone as a beast. Yep,
Tyler 23:01
he's had no socialization except with a bunch of cutlery and and furniture.
Misha 23:05
Did they all stay the same age?
Tyler 23:07
I'm pretty sure because like, Chip, I think there's a child. Yeah, so
Misha 23:11
he's still 11
Tyler 23:13
It's weird though. Because when he finally is free, he's not anymore. He's he's like he's a he's painting looks exactly the same. That's also weird. There's a painting of him as an adult. Windows that is it. It's so
Misha 23:30
what's he just like, right? Like the fan because they say there'll be cursed for all. Yeah, it's so means that eternal, like, they aren't become immortal stuck as like objects, Beast, whatever, right? It's not like the eighth. So chip doesn't age because he'd be Yeah, but how many born? Yeah,
Tyler 23:49
like, if if they didn't mention years, it would make sense. Like they're cursed eternally, there's, you know, but the problem is they say into like by your 21st year, first birthday. The birthday so it's like I don't fucking get it. I've totally forgot about that. There's a picture of him as a human Yes,
Misha 24:07
yes. Exactly
Tyler 24:09
biggest 11 year old ever is he like Andre the Giant does that
Misha 24:14
mean that when they marry or get together Bella's rape Yeah,
Tyler 24:18
it's a big it's a big scenario where like Tom Hanks is actually a boy. And then they bone and the lady's like not cool that when she finds out that movies also disturbing we could talk movies real disturbing, but i It's a great movie. Yeah. Okay, so yeah, the story is the more we talked about it the more ridiculous it is right. It's a fun movie but also it's like I did like how like this is more animation but they do show the passage of time through the seasons changing so we know the bells there for a while. But still like the falling in love with him. It seems so rushed and forced to me but yes, because bells like Well, we'll get to that. But Bill's like a strong lady and then she just kind of I mean, and then she may have thought
Misha 25:05
she was You thought she was saying she is because she doesn't like guest on and reads books, which is like,
Tyler 25:12
that doesn't mean I've been hating a person like guest on and being a bibliophile that that does it for me.
Misha 25:18
How old is she?
Tyler 25:20
She can tell you a good question. I think she's canonically 19 which is still creeps on for an almost 30 year old man but, but worse. I mean, less bad than old.
Misha 25:34
I was like, that's not bad. And then you had to remind us how old we are. Yeah,
Tyler 25:39
if I were going to go do what guest guests on also, by the way, it looks like he's probably in his 30s So he's he I predator style going after? Oh, yeah. All right, let's let's get a story.
Misha 25:50
Anybody is because the font is that the day it
Tyler 25:54
screws with you? Okay, we're supposed to be tail as old as time and in whatever, whatever. But there's time. Time matters people. Ages matter?
Misha 26:06
What is the tail? And Beauty and the Beast?
Tyler 26:09
The lyrics of that cycle? So don't feel they're still make sense. Like tail is all the beauty and the beast
Misha 26:14
somebody? Oh, you know what it is? You know what it is? You know how like, now people say like cavemen hit, like club ladies over the head. And then they're like, forced into marriage. That's literally as old as time. Human time. Right? Yeah. That's what it is. Yeah,
Tyler 26:32
I would like to give CRO magnons and Neanderthals more credit that because there is evidence that it was more egalitarian than Oh, yeah. And today. Yes. I mean, that doesn't mean there wasn't some clubbing going on and some whoring as you said.
Misha 26:46
I mean, are still happens today? Yeah, it's not like we're any better. Jails oldest time. Right. That's what it is. imprisonment. Marriage.
Tyler 26:58
I mean, we can say the R word. This is an adult podcast. We can say the word. We can say the word rape thing. It. It's a horrible word. You drop the word, if you remember. Oh,
Misha 27:08
I'll say Can any day of the week. Yeah, I don't know. Because I have one.
Tyler 27:11
Did you see that post I put on the dinosaur Facebook. There was like some Australian saying like, American. I love how Americans get so offended by the word comment. While we get super offended by kids getting murdered in school. You know, it's a weird world. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah, Sukkot America where the fuckery story. I don't know. Like, I want to give a low score. Because the story is kind of insane. And doesn't I mean, insane in sort of a silly way that, but it's also deeply problematic. So yeah, do we just give it like a fun score and then just give it some negative doesn't sit right points later, or what do you think?
Misha 27:58
Okay, I think the Stockholm Syndrome falls into doesn't sit right. And I think the story should be a higher score. Okay,
Tyler 28:08
what's given at the high score? Because here's my here's my argument. The score should be low for story, but we give bonus points for for effervescence. This does have Dizzy mat magic. That's it. We give some Fun Factor score. That's a bit high. And then we really ram it. Pardon the language with that doesn't sit right.
Misha 28:29
That's the R word RAM. That's an R word. That's a great word. Okay, because I do I think it's, um, an OK story other than the Stockholm Syndrome, other than the age discrepancies, like it's kind of fun like this. Like she's bored with life and then finds herself in this magic castle and the mud, the Gothic castle. And then, um you're right.
Tyler 29:06
The story is bad. The story is bad.
Misha 29:12
This, this I absolutely have a huge problem with guests, the plot of guests Don's the whole thing feels really forced and like shoehorned in. Yeah,
Tyler 29:22
in fact, I think it was a later addition to put like a villain in Okay, I think s3 Ah, okay, I can deal with that. No, I was gonna go possibly lower, but three is
Misha 29:35
tight. No, three is?
Tyler 29:39
Yeah, three is fine, because we also have to consider.
Misha 29:42
So this was a three. And it's a fun, general story that they didn't get right. And I think this is sort of the same where it's like, Yep, okay. It's a fun story that they just didn't do correctly in this animated film. Yeah,
Tyler 29:59
I mean, I think I think the story is always the same though. It's like Bell getting captured.
Misha 30:07
So right yeah, I like the story. So growing up my cousins and I, when we were kids, we would like reenact What's the thing where you were people redo movies like home? Like real movies? sweeted Swated?
Tyler 30:20
That sounds familiar. Yeah. Yeah. So
Misha 30:23
we would basically do like live theatrical performances for each other. And everyone would pick apart and we would like we did Beauty and the Beast a lot. And like, someone would be the footstool dog and like, have to get out there. And we would just like play act movies, just for us. And then whenever we get to the kissing parts, we would do that like, oh, yeah, a curtain and turn around. So this is like one of the things that I remember about Beauty and the Beast. We love that story.
Tyler 30:56
Yeah, I hated this movie as a kid.
Misha 31:00
I loved it. It was it was like, like watching now you're right, like, yeah,
Tyler 31:05
I don't know. It's just I guess it's the adult in me like looking at the cringy plot. Yeah, as a kid I hated it. Because like Little Mermaid, my younger sister watched it on repeat. And I just, and it was too lovey dovey for me at that age. I didn't really like it. But But yeah, I enjoyed it more watching it now, but I also had, like, there are glaring issues with this movie that I just can't get over. Yeah, okay. Oh, three is fine. I'm fine with that.
Misha 31:33
The kid at the end going? Do they live happily ever after? And I'm like, fuck, she was a prisoner. Like Happily Ever After is where she goes to therapy. She processes what happens to her she has PTSD and gets help for that because she was a fucking prisoner held captive. Her dad was held prisoner. Like God, okay, sorry. To keep harping.
Tyler 32:00
Yeah, by it by a child monster that also looks like an adult. And it's unclear,
Misha 32:05
right? I'm unclear. You know who he is. I know. I didn't really I didn't watch the whole thing and I think this show sucks. And we're gonna get a lot of shit from people about this but Game of Thrones. Joffrey he's fucking Jaffrey.
Tyler 32:16
Oh, okay. Hmm.
Misha 32:20
Oh, heartache. I don't I like stopped watching the show after he was killed. Spoiler
Tyler 32:25
alert. Split that I think that's fine to spoil that. Yeah. Show sucks. Everybody dies anyway. Yeah, like maybe he's an 11 year old like Joffrey. So if that were the case, then I'm on the enchantress aside, like fuck this kid. Fuck everybody lives. Yes. That's
Misha 32:41
what I'm saying. I wanted him to be murdered. You know what sooner than he was. Yeah,
Tyler 32:45
I'm on the enchantress aside now because like, imagine that the Enchantress is like Maleficent and she's just walking on. She's like, Oh, there's a castle. I really need to use the bathroom. And like in Sleeping Beauty. Well, you know and Olufsen her whole deal is she didn't get invited to a party and she's just gonna.
Misha 33:00
We're gonna have a look. No, no, no, no, no, we're gonna have a long argument when we get to the assets.
Tyler 33:06
I know. I know. I know. The. There's. So yeah,
Misha 33:10
- Bullshit excuse because she. Okay, sorry. This is for another day out far in the future. Yeah,
Tyler 33:16
but just picture it's like Maleficent she shows up and she's like, Oh, can I have some tea and crumpets? And use your bathroom? And
Misha 33:23
it's not Maleficent like an ugly grandma. That's it? She wasn't. So
Tyler 33:27
the the witch from Snow White for example. No, she's bad. Snow. Maleficent is bad. You can't tell me she's not bad. No, the witch
Misha 33:33
from Snow White is bad, too. That's why I'm saying this. Enchantress isn't bad that we know of.
Tyler 33:39
No, we need to. I think we need to rewrite her story and think of her as like a boss. A boss bitch.
Misha 33:45
I think that term is outdated already.
Tyler 33:47
Well, I'm gonna bring it back. Where does that come from?
Misha 33:51
The internet.
Tyler 33:53
I mean, I'm old anyway. So
Misha 33:55
I'm older than you. So you're not allowed to say that.
Tyler 33:58
I mean, I didn't say something like on fleek, which I feel like it was outdated. And
Misha 34:03
I don't even know how to use that term. All right, we're all know what it means
Tyler 34:08
moving on. animation. Now here
Misha 34:12
or Okay, I have a little bit of mixed feelings. You're about to say gorge though. I
Tyler 34:17
heard it gorgeous. either.
Misha 34:18
I was about to say gorgeous. There's, there's parts of it that are absolutely stunning. Yep. But then there are parts that okay, the backgrounds that sets the design like all of the landscapes, incredible. The majority of the main stuff like the cartoony parts like the characters, the beast looks gorgeous, beautiful. The lighting really good. The beginning
Tyler 34:48
sort of had some Bambi esque feeling to it like Yes. And to the same thing,
Misha 34:53
right. The 3d through the forest. There was a little deer in the front. I bet that was an homage to that
Tyler 34:57
might have been might have been Yeah, yeah. And I liked that. stained. I liked the stained glass part in the beginning. The stained
Misha 35:03
glass so gorgeous overall, but I did have a couple issues with the CGI. Yep. I didn't like the ballroom at all. Yeah. It just felt like it like didn't feel correct the chandelier look terrible. It didn't like that. I just wish the whole thing was animated. Yeah. Like, like traditional animation,
Tyler 35:26
I think yeah, they say hi. Oh, sorry. Go
Misha 35:28
ahead. Go ahead.
Tyler 35:29
I was just gonna say they, I think they were often on about whether to go for it through like with digital. And in the end, they thought that the the effects are going to be good enough to pull it off. And I think 9091 That was more mine. Yeah. I
Misha 35:43
remember liking it. But now. Yeah. And then sometimes, bells face change throughout. Yeah. And for the main character, to not be more consistent with her. It kind of threw me off.
Tyler 35:59
I had the same issue with Aladdin. Yeah, Aladdin and Jasmine look wonky at places too. Yeah, I agree. The beasts like always looks great. His movement the feral quality is so good. I love beasts. Yeah. All the all the side characters are really good. Like, yeah, it's it's really, really good. But I get the sense of just like I said, a Latin that they were pressed for time. And that's not a criticism because animators are incredible. But they were like pressed for time. And did you notice that the last ballroom dance was reused from Sleeping Beauty? Oh, no. I'll have to if you rewatch it, it looks rewatch it it when I read that before watching it. And I watched it and it's it stood out as Yeah, I didn't just know it from Oh, that's.
Misha 36:46
I can picture the Sleeping Beauty. I love sleeping beauty. It's one of my favorites.
Tyler 36:50
It looks really out of place once you know like, if you're okay, looking forward, it looks wonky. Yeah. Also, I mean, we got to talk about it. I mean, I don't want to go into too much detail, because there's a great YouTube video about this. But we got to talk about the beast, when he turns into a human and he the way he looks. Roberts, there's a I'm going to shout out a YouTube video because this the channel Friday night's sleep over has a has a video from 2020 called why the prince looks so weird. Really great video, like going into like the making of that scene, and how it kind of went went wrong. Better than I could ever actually ugly, but he's looked really weird. And it was also kind of like, yeah, like time pressures do
Misha 37:31
the reveal. So you're like, Oh, he's gonna be fucking hot. And then you turn around, you're like, Oh, God, no, go back to being the I mean,
Tyler 37:40
we have him in the painting. And he looks like normal. But then he looks all sorts of, you know, odo from Deep Space Nine kind of. And yeah, it's. Yeah, they're just some, like Aladdin. It's like mostly good, but there's some clumsiness to it. I think beating the beasts overall was prettier than I think.
Misha 38:00
i Yes, I agree. I think it's better than allotted.
Tyler 38:05
I don't think it's I mean, I think it should get a really high score. But it's not like perfection, like Bambi is, of course. But I think it should get a pretty high score. Like I I was thinking something around like an
Misha 38:16
eight. Me too. Yeah, I seen a music
Tyler 38:20
and sound. What do you think about that? I'm on the frame the song list.
Misha 38:28
I love this. I love the songs. I think every song is memorable. Yeah. And the score is beautiful. Yes. And I really like it. I think it is. It's not. Not every song is catchy in the same way, but I don't think there are any problems.
Tyler 38:49
Yeah. Let me clarify when I say on the fence, I mean, like, I think it's all strong, but I'm just on the fence about like, where to put it on the scale. Like got it. Okay. But yeah, the music's great beer guests is a it slaps is that what people say? No. Nope. Everything's dated as soon as you say it, especially if an old white dude says it like me. I think also, like, when we're talking about the music, we should shout out the incredible Howard Ashman and
Misha 39:18
he died that year it was released. Yep,
Tyler 39:21
it was last movie, they convinced him to work on it. He was dying of AIDS and they convinced him to work on it and pull them away from Aladdin. All the sound effects were great. Sounds like all the ambient music or like the score rather than the songs it was all good. Yeah, kills all this time. I fucking hated that song when I was a kid, but I loved it. Angela Lansbury kills it. And I guess she really didn't want to do it, but they sort of pressed her to do it.
Misha 39:48
Oh, okay. Let me tell you, sorry. So there's this restaurant, this French restaurant in New York that we used to go to like with my parents because I can't afford to go regularly. or like ever. And it's like, right near Broadway, but kind of like out of the way a little bit. And they always have a live piano player. And it was late. And all of a sudden, Angela Lansbury walks in. Yes, I had dinner with her and I didn't have dinner with her. But I like to say that I did because she was in the same restaurant. And then the owner of the restaurant, comes around, starts walking around to like the tables of the people he knows. And like he had a mutual friend of my mom. So that's how we like, would go to this restaurant, comes over to our table. And he goes, Look at her. It's I can't do a French accent. It's Angela lensbury. And doesn't she look fabulous? And then just like one or Eddie like didn't play it cool. You know how like New York City, Russia. It's like, you're like supposed to be cool. Like, Oh, yeah. Celebrities walking all the time. Oh, no, not John Claude Baker, son of Josephine Baker, the OH SHIT dancer. Oh, yeah. Wow. And, huh. And yeah, he did not play it cool. And like pointed like, everybody. Look, she's fabulous. And I was like, Wait, shit. She, by the way. She looks phenomenal. This was a while ago now. It was one of the best moments of my life. Yeah, I've got to be in the same room as Angela Lansbury. I
Tyler 41:27
feel like I saw her in something. I mean, she's she's kind of being a murder. She wrote. No, of course, I saw her murder recently. I mean, she's kind of being like her 90s Now it's coming from
Misha 41:39
a Broadway performance with her fellow cast members.
Tyler 41:43
Oh, awesome. Fucking beautiful. Wow. That's awesome. Yeah, she knocks it out of the park. And I guess she was a little hesitant to do it and kind of one ticked it and crushed it. Lumieres like, be our guest is great. The guest on guests on sounds fun. The whole bar scene where he's like chugging eggs with shells on them. So good.
Misha 42:06
Did you see my Instagram video of Simon wearing that V neck shirt with that song? No, I don't think I did. So Simon had like a it's gross. But he had a wart that he kept licking. So we had our vet told us to just put him in T shirts. So I put just a V neck t shirt on him. And like, you know, he's long haired all his hair came out. And he was like, and I just immediately thought of that song. So I did an Instagram story with a clip of like, the sight words like the sound where it's like, an every last inch of me is covered with hair.
Tyler 42:39
Yeah.
Misha 42:43
Yeah. Simon's like, very handsome too. So yeah, he's just say two and we'll get to it.
Tyler 42:49
Well, yeah, music and sound great. In my opinion. I give it like a high score, but I just don't know how high I was. I was sort of on the fence between like a NINE and an EIGHT. But I think a is
Misha 43:01
I will tell I will say and I would Okay, so I'm I was also on the fence between an EIGHT and a NINE because I think it's slightly better than Aladdin. But I don't think it's as good as a Goofy Movie.
Tyler 43:12
Yeah, yeah. So sure.
Misha 43:16
So let's give it an eight
Tyler 43:17
eight it is.
Misha 43:18
We're gonna get some shit for saying that the music? Yeah. The visa is not as good as a Goofy Movie.
Tyler 43:26
Yeah. That also and yeah, but hey, that's what happens. It is what it is. It is what it is. get at it. We are the deciders. Yeah. Love to hear your your your opinions about it people though. protagonist. Now, would we say the bell agonist here or is it? Oh, of course. No.
Misha 43:47
Bell. Okay. All right. Definitely Bell. Okay. Now, I don't know. But I think it's Bell.
Tyler 43:54
I would say it's more belt than beast. But yes.
Misha 43:57
I think it's Belle.
Tyler 44:00
It's just like, because the whole plot revolves around beast trying to get beldam Maryam basically. So but yeah, Belle, I would say yeah, but I mean, it is Beauty and the Beast. I
Misha 44:10
think it's down beauty. So
Tyler 44:11
yeah,
Misha 44:12
I think it's Belle.
Tyler 44:13
So what do we think about Bella? I like her. I mean, I feel I feel really horrible about what happens to her and like the psychological damage, but I think
Misha 44:23
it's beasts fault. I think she's blamed the victim.
Tyler 44:26
I think she's a she's a better protagonist than like, good old Bambi and better than au Prince. I'll
Misha 44:34
leave that in. Yeah. Belle is a pretty great protagonist.
Tyler 44:39
She's like headstrong. She knows what she likes. She knows what she doesn't like she cares about her family. She experiences growth. psychological damage. That's a typo. Oh, no,
Misha 44:52
it's like gross in the wrong way.
Tyler 44:54
Yeah, negative gross. Yeah, the opportunity she could be going to some university in but instead she's stuck in a castle.
Misha 45:01
Well, we can't blame her. We can't blame the victim. She was imprisoned.
Tyler 45:04
No, no, I'm
Misha 45:05
not blaming her dad. Yes. Yeah. No, I'm not saying you are
Tyler 45:09
saying sir dad. Yeah. saves her dad. Yeah, twice.
Misha 45:14
What's the second time?
Tyler 45:16
Cuz she goes like, because when the beasts lets her leave because she sees her father like in the woods. He's
Misha 45:21
sick. Yeah, okay. Yeah, she
Tyler 45:22
goes again to save him and then gets like the town.
Misha 45:26
I do. Like also when he's like, don't go to the West Wing. And she's like, ooh, it's because that's something I would definitely do. Just like, oh, I I'm exploring.
Tyler 45:37
Yeah, I probably wouldn't. I would just bring it up in conversation every now and then. Like, maybe someday. No,
Misha 45:43
I was just fucking walk. I like love opening doors that I'm not supposed to open. I love sneaking into places and looking glowing. Yeah, definitely. Look,
Tyler 45:53
I feel like yeah, I feel like the beasts would be very angry with you.
Misha 45:57
Okay, I get I did give her or the story a hard time for the Stockholm Syndrome thing. But if I were in her position, I would like 100% also to be like, I love the beast.
Tyler 46:10
Okay. I would get I don't know. He doesn't really do it for me. Okay,
Misha 46:15
I before we keep talking about this, we'll get to that I have. I have some questions. Unless you Well, let's wait till we. Let's wait a little bit and then I'll ask you some questions. Okay.
Tyler 46:26
So what do we think and protagonist twice? Yeah, we can't hold with the horrible things that happened to her against her. I think she's she deserves a high score. So too, I'm thinking something like a seven or an eight. Maybe? Yeah,
Misha 46:40
me, too. High. Eight. But I'm now thinking eight might be too high. Let's go with a seven. Yeah,
Tyler 46:45
okay. Seven for Bill sidekick. I mean, I would say the Okay. The Beast isn't a sidekick. He's a love. No,
Misha 46:53
I would say it's Lumiere Cogsworth. Mrs. Potts, it's like yeah, that's what I
Tyler 47:00
would say feather duster the armoire. I love them assaulting the dog. Or the what do you call it? Ottoman?
Misha 47:07
I love them all.
Tyler 47:09
Yeah, they're all good.
Misha 47:09
I like them better than Bell.
Tyler 47:11
They're the like, much like genie and Aladdin. They're the star of the film. I think they're the magic. So I think they deserve like, I mean, this might be controversial, but I would say they're like kind of on par with Genie.
Misha 47:25
I disagree.
Tyler 47:28
I think they're better or just a tiny bit. Just
Misha 47:31
a little bit worse. I know what's even worse. Just not
Tyler 47:35
the thing is the team that is good. Yeah, I mean, I love the genie but the genie is also like 110% Robin Williams and if you're not a Robin Williams fan that genius probably insufferable. Like one of my friends really just hate hates Robin Williams whole shtick and like so the genie is not really for him. But for me the genie is like amazing. I love that. Yeah, love it. I
Misha 47:56
agree. I love Robin Williams. All right, but yeah, I
Tyler 47:59
think that like all these characters altogether, they bring like such magic to the big movie.
Misha 48:04
They literally bring magic to the Yeah, I think they're an eight All right, no, why Yeah, what do you think?
Tyler 48:12
I mean, yeah, defend your Well, I was thinking nine to equal to match the genie but I'm fine going down to an eight Lumi as a bit too sleazy. And like French dairy love
Misha 48:23
Lumiere. He's hilarious. I do like when Cogsworth when so the beast says like I want to get something nice for her and Cogsworth goes Oh, the usual flowers chocolates promises you don't intend to keep
Tyler 48:36
yeah Cogsworth is great David Ogden Cyrus kills it Yeah, even the what's her name? I don't know if she had a name but like the the Anwar is Joanne really great. More
Misha 48:50
morally Joanne?
Tyler 48:54
Oh, the actress is? Yeah,
Misha 48:57
hilarious. You just sent me poorly. Yeah, I'm gonna so I'm gonna be posting this picture of her to Instagram she or whatever social media because she is a comedian. And I found this really wonderful picture of her that I will be sharing. Yeah, it's great. Funny, funny person.
Tyler 49:18
Yeah. So okay, eight I'm fine with that eight for side kicks villain.
Misha 49:24
I love guest on but there are problems just because it's like, he's a good villain, right? You like immediately hate him? Yeah. But I feel like you're kind of confused sometimes about his motive, like, like, I get that he doesn't. He wants what he can't have any so in love with himself that he can't imagine someone not loving him. But it just starts to be like the fact that he'd send her dad to in a saint In asylum to force her into it just south feel felt so wedged in. I did like how they when he started to get really bad they did shadows like lighting to make him look like extra evil which I really liked. That was good. Yeah, he just seemed like it just that whole part where he's like getting extra villainous seemed kind of forced. Yeah,
Tyler 50:23
he's a bit. Yeah. And I guess like overall he's a bit like one dimensional. But he is extremely hateable, which is a good quality and a villain. And he's charismatic, at least in the beginning. You can see why people I mean, he's hateable, but also you can kind of see why people like him because he's big, muscly. handsy that party village? Yeah, yeah. Presumably has his nipples. We're not quite sure.
Misha 50:54
Did we see any shadows of nipples?
Tyler 50:57
I don't know. I mean, he when he opens up his shirt to show that he's a hirsute man. I don't know. Fill in I mean, I'd give him something like I give him like a four is what I was thinking like, he's got these villain qualities but yeah, but he's, like too low. Yeah, but I think just on is worse than Jafar. Like I will go with a five I think right he is worse so far has got more going on. I mean, he's motivations are also kind of wishy washy too, but they're a little bit. So you can watch I just discovered this is off topic. But I discovered that there's like some parity musical out there. That's a Latin from Jafar has perspective and how he's like trying to keep the kingdom together because the Sultan is a total doofus. And scheming and like Aladdin's the villain and I kind of want to I want to find the whole thing and watch it because it looks kind of funny. Yeah, maybe four is a bit low five,
Misha 51:47
five. Let's go with five. henchmen
Tyler 51:49
that loves Oh, he's awful. Yeah, I
Misha 51:54
don't like him at all. I
Tyler 51:55
just feel I feel bad for him. But he's too toady issues.
Misha 51:59
I don't feel bad for him. He's just an idiot. I don't like watching him. He ruins the movie. Yeah,
Tyler 52:06
I mean, he there is at least a henchman. So I don't think we can give it a one right? He's not like, he's not he's not one quality. Is he? I mean, he's pretty.
Misha 52:13
A hen who's the henchmen and Alice in Wonderland. What did we say? Card guard. He's better than the card guard.
Tyler 52:20
He's more of a presence than the card guard.
Misha 52:22
Yes. That's all I mean,
Tyler 52:24
I think we also gave it for some of the sort of antagonists. No, it's got to be just a henchman of the Queen. I think we gave it for just like the card guard and like the king and the judge and jury and stuff like that. The
Misha 52:39
king That's right, like the king. So I would say it's on par with that.
Tyler 52:43
Okay. Yeah. Three is definitely not a one because one is like lack of henchmen. Bam, right? Yeah, right. Or like in Atlantis was just like the faceless goons with machine guns basically. Strong Female Lead category. Oh,
Misha 52:58
yeah. I would say she's a strong female lead. She is Yeah, Belle is has a strong female lead. So we gave Alice in Wonderland, Alice and eight. Yep.
Tyler 53:10
The reason we did that is because she like she just she's like okay, I'm bored of this now and moves on like she is fully a person who is you know, in control of her what she's doing and is God agents
Misha 53:23
I didn't I didn't look ahead because I think Belle is a stronger character than Alice. Yep. So we have to give her a nine Huh Well,
Tyler 53:38
we could I think I think it would be like an eight but just it's kind of like an 8.5 but I feel like nine is too high because like I agree because she she loses a lot of her luster by I mean it's not her fault like don't know victimized I don't want to victim blame me but she's super. I mean, even after she falls for the beast, she's still like she goes back to the village she stands up to the whole horrible mob and defends the beast and defends her father and puts her life in danger to help the beast and yeah, yeah,
Misha 54:15
let's go with it. It's
Tyler 54:16
good. I think feel like nine is a bit too strong though. Because we off we don't want to look ahead but we do have some very strong female leads coming that are that might get a bit higher.
Misha 54:26
So yeah,
Tyler 54:28
but then again, this is the podcast that gave the music ADA Goofy a nine out of 10 but we will get a lot of hate mail but that's what I think she's an eight out of 10 rather than I mean we can always go back and read it. We'll have some like midterm reports. Maybe we can decide once we've got
Misha 54:45
every email that sent to us if I can. Next category bipoc representation portrayal one everyone's waiting the movie. All the actors are white. Yep,
Tyler 54:57
it's nice that there's some like LG VT representation with with Ashman but he's not in the movie. He I mean, he's his words are in the movie, obviously. But that's not. Yeah, that's not bipoc representation anyway, so but it's nice, fun factor. I think it's a fun movie. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah. Yeah, it's a little like free beast fun fun. Yeah, like it's the dark gothic castle and all that stuff is nice and good imagery. It's
Misha 55:22
a like a seven. Yeah,
Tyler 55:26
it's not as fun as some of the other movies we've seen. But yeah, but it's up there. It's solid. And then doesn't sit right. I think this
Misha 55:34
so what did we give it for fun factor? I said six or seven? What do you think? Oh, sorry. I
Tyler 55:38
missed the six. I'm fine with seven.
Misha 55:40
I mean, seven. Okay.
Tyler 55:41
I think seven more than six maybe? Okay. Oh, no, no. Yeah, seven. Okay, are you yeah
Misha 55:53
let's do go with his iPad. Yeah. Okay. doesn't sit right. This is where it lose points for Stockholm syndrome that that is the hub happily ever after ending is that a victim of imprisonment? Should should fall in love with their captor. It needs to lose points because That's some bullshit. Yeah. I mean,
Tyler 56:19
I would give it like minus nine points for that, to be honest.
Misha 56:23
Holy shit. No,
Tyler 56:24
I'm not gonna give it a minus 10 Because that's Christmas, Carol. Tara. Nine for that. Yeah. The whole plot is based around imprisonment and abuse and torture. It's awful. It's super doesn't sit right with me. I mean, I yeah, I think it should get massive doesn't sit right points. Wow, we what do you think about that? Are you still on that?
Misha 56:48
Can we do eight?
Tyler 56:51
Yeah, sure. I don't know. Honestly, it's fine. Wait, wait, wait. If you can defend it.
Misha 56:56
Yeah, I can defend it because he lets her go. Knowing that it might be their demise. So she can go and I under Okay, nevermind. I can't even negative nine. Yeah, I mean,
Tyler 57:07
I agree with Is it like the beast is sympathetic, but he is also a monster. Yeah. And also, he's not just I don't want to call Jaffe,
Misha 57:17
because we're gonna get to it. And he's not calling the child for the time being just because, hey, you're the one who call them Jeffrey. He's not Joffrey. Joffrey is the worst the beast. We will get to it. He's an adult. He's just a fully actualized adult when we're watching. It will be okay. effervescence. I think it gets a lot of points. I mean, yeah, magic.
Tyler 57:37
This kind of makes up for the doesn't Sarah because this thing has Yeah, this is the this is like one of those quintessential Disney movies. I mean, I think you know, much like Bambi it should get super high. Like maybe even tonight. I
Misha 57:50
think so too. Yeah, this is this has all of it throughout it. It's This to me is like, that's where this makes up for it. And there's a lot of problems with it. It's not perfect.
58:03
But it gets like full Disney magic. Yeah. Agreed. Now, okay, grand total. And then let's hear all these things you want to say about sex with the BEAST? Okay.
Misha 58:18
Beauty in the beast gets a total of 60 out of 110. Okay, according to our metric scoring, okay.
Tyler 58:30
Not bad. Not bad at all. Not the best, but not the best. But hey, Don't imprison women, and then maybe you'll get in the lead. Okay,
Misha 58:40
now I have some questions for you. All right, sure. We're gonna play okay, I've won a question and then we're gonna play game. Oh, okay. The first question is, at the end. When they're all humanized. Do you think that Maurice and Mrs. Potts should couple up? Oh, I
Tyler 58:59
think it's implied that they will. Yeah.
Misha 59:01
Okay. What is Mrs. Potts relationship to chip? I mean, it's like a full grandma. Yeah, it's not to say that you can't like I've old parents. My parents were all
Tyler 59:17
also the Middle Ages. She might be like 29 Life is hard.
Misha 59:23
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Because we said that an 11 year old looks 20 Yeah. 29 year old look. 60 Okay.
Tyler 59:31
I think yeah, for look going from like traditional looks, grandma makes sense. But the the the relationship seems more mother and son, but that just might be because the parents are mother
Misha 59:42
and son too. But I was just asking because like, Yeah, I'm thinking about like, the ages of everybody, but I hope that those two couple up they all live in the castle. He's like, Oh, my wife died, I guess I don't know.
Tyler 59:55
Yeah, we'd much like in a Goofy Movie. We don't know what happens with the mom. No
Misha 1:00:00
Okay, now we're gonna play a game I'm sure you can guess what the game is hot or not? No. We're gonna play bang Mary kill and your choices our guest on beast as the animal beast or human beast. Oh okay
Tyler 1:00:24
which is Oh man, that's tough I would say
Misha 1:00:33
I can't
Tyler 1:00:35
I know okay, I know that the human beast looks weird. But at that time in the movie, he is a nicer person than guest on who is just fully into himself. So here's my decision. Mary beast beast, fuck human beast and kill guests don't Okay, we have one thing in common and I think I know what you're gonna say if I can guess okay fuck guests on kill human beast and Mary BSPs
Misha 1:01:00
oh yeah
Tyler 1:01:05
I get that but also he's just like
Misha 1:01:07
before so yeah, before okay, I've before guests on says anything. He's hot. I say my type is like big and muscley Right? Like the rock if you listen to this He's my type. Just big and muscley and so guest on is big and muscley but I'm not going to marry guest on because he's awful. Yeah, and I'm only gonna bang him once because I bet he's a terrible way because he's so selfish. So you just want to get once out of your system. Realize this was terrible never doing it again. Done. Okay, then. Yeah, but then like be but
Tyler 1:01:48
then if that would be such an unsatisfying fuck though Wouldn't you rather have like a giving giving but kind of weird looking lover for like one night Listen, okay for one
Misha 1:01:59
night or all for the rest of your life
Tyler 1:02:03
it's fuck marry kill.
Misha 1:02:05
Yeah, I'm gonna fuck guest on once marry beast because let me tell you I think animal beast is the best Yeah.
Tyler 1:02:15
Yeah, but But what I'm saying is Why kill qn nice Yeah, but why? Well, he's not he's a prison he we just over an hour.
Misha 1:02:28
But he's cute. I got imprisoned. I gotta change you know, he changed but I'm not listen, he let her go. But you're right, we did talk.
Tyler 1:02:39
But here's what I'm saying. Get the story.
Misha 1:02:41
Okay, forget that. You want to marry him? Because you think out of the three he is probably the best one to fuck so then you get to do it all the time whenever you want because you're married to him and then human beasts is so weird. I don't want to look at him anymore by okay,
Tyler 1:02:57
but I agree with you about the beast beast part but I would rather have a weird looking but but kind lover in the human beast than what he's like.
Misha 1:03:08
When he's a human he was unkind as a human which is what got him cursed
Tyler 1:03:13
because they they they look like they're truly in love and they're like happy at the end and yes it's problematic
Misha 1:03:18
but I fell in love with him when he was animals
Tyler 1:03:21
you know you know he's going to do things for Bill that that guests would
Misha 1:03:25
not do you know that beast is an animal would do things for Yeah,
Tyler 1:03:30
but that's why you could do yeah but that's how you marry beast and then you just fuck human beast and then you kill guests that's gonna be a horrible one nightstand with guests on it's gonna be
Misha 1:03:40
awful and he turns into human and that's it you could never have your animal beasts back again.
Tyler 1:03:45
Well, no we were were but but if you kill human beings then you if you kill human base, then you also killed BSPs that's how you know what I've traveled? I would
Misha 1:03:54
just I would like see the rose and I'd be like, Oh no, it's dying. Oh no. And then the petals fall and then I go I love you now and then hope he doesn't transform into human because let me tell you that human version. Sorry Eric Roberts.
Tyler 1:04:11
This is this is all just so weird. This movie is this this movies messed me up. Well, that is all the time we have left folks. If you stay till the end. Thank you so much for listening. We really appreciate it and you can get in touch with us at [email protected] or on Twitter and Instagram @muchabupod. Any other plugs or anything you want to any shout outs Misha other than to hirsute muscley monsters that you want to boat.
Misha 1:04:46
Listen, just start weightlifting,
Tyler 1:04:50
start weightlifting, start growing hair everywhere. Start getting ready. Okay,
Misha 1:04:55
it doesn't have to be the hair thing. It's just like, the bigger the better.
Tyler 1:05:01
I actually want to give a couple shout I want to just shout out again that video on YouTube just in case people missed it Friday night's sleep over. I don't know what other things are on that channel. But that video about why the prince looks weird and beating the beast is really great and goes into like the artistic behind the scenes which like the hand drawn sketches into what it became really great. I also want to shout out my good friend Misha, and thanks for doing this podcast with me.
Misha 1:05:26
Thanks, Tyler. That's so sweet.
Tyler 1:05:29
Anyway, thanks for that know it and we'll be back next time with Big Hero Six secure six, which I've never seen. So
Misha 1:05:38
neither have I Yeah. All right. All right.
Tyler 1:05:41
Bye everybody,
Misha 1:05:42
Bye everyone