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Tyler 00:00
content warning. Although this is a podcast about kids movies this podcast isn't for kids and may contain content some people find offensive
Tyler 00:22
see reflections on the water, more than darkness and the depths. Could you see him surface and every shadow on the wind have feel his breath. Brother Bear I found his weakness. Brother Bear he'll do what i Please, brother bear no time for sweetness. I remember the rest.
Misha 00:49
That was incredible. And that's going on social media.
Tyler 00:53
Do you know what that? Do you know what that's from?
Misha 00:56
No,
Tyler 00:57
that's the that's Tina Turner's Goldeneye sound song from the hit the hit. Jim Bond movie GoldenEye. Boy off to a great start here.
Misha 01:09
Welcome to Much Abu About Nothing a podcast where we discuss and rate animated Disney films going in alphabetical order following a rigorous and scientific scoring system based on absolutely nothing. I'm one of your hosts Misha,
Tyler 01:23
and I'm another one of your hosts Tyler. And this week you asked for more bears. You get more bears.
Misha 01:32
Not just bears. Humans as bears. Very specific genre that apparently Yes.
Tyler 01:39
We're talking about Brother Bear from 2000. And what was it? 2003? Yeah,
Misha 01:46
yes. Um, wow, I can anti bear sentiment that like, swept the nation that Disney needed to address because why was this movie and brave? Why were they created as if people don't like bears?
Tyler 02:06
I have no idea. I was trying to think of like when? When Grizzly Man came out, but I think it was recently MapKit I think it was after this. So 2006 or five? Maybe? 2005. But it's not like that was about hatred. affairs. Five. No,
Misha 02:29
that was the opposite. Yeah,
Tyler 02:31
it was about just how loving
Misha 02:33
bears to death. Loving bears to death. Yeah.
Tyler 02:35
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe there was some like, maybe Disney's got their finger on the pulse of like the dark web anti grisly agenda, and anti Kodiaq agenda? I'm not sure. Because why and if we're gonna include brave also anti black bear agenda too. But
Misha 02:55
they weird. It's weird. people hated bears that much.
Tyler 03:00
I couldn't get it either. I mean, I don't understand. But also, this movie doesn't make much sense. I don't think Disney did a good job of explaining itself either. So
Misha 03:10
I, there were some parts that were sort of sped up that needed a little bit more time dedicated to it.
Tyler 03:19
That is a that is a very generous way of saying. Yeah.
Misha 03:27
Lots of questions about certain
Tyler 03:28
parts. Oh, my gosh. Okay, so
Misha 03:30
do you want me to just summarize it? Yeah,
Tyler 03:33
really quick. I'll just tell the listeners. Thank you for listening and welcome. If you're new, just really quick what? You know the categories
Misha 03:42
already said welcome. Well, can
Tyler 03:43
I say welcome? No. Okay. We'll cut that out. We'll cut it out. Yes, sorry. But anyway, for those that are listening, we rate these movies on different categories originality, story, animation, music and sound. protagonist, sidekick villain henchmen if there are any, because some of these movies actually quite a few these movies don't have any strong female lead bipoc representation slash portrayal and fun factor. How fun is this movie? Or how not fun is it? And then we have some minus points for if it doesn't sit right. And some bonus points for effervescence, that Disney magic, giving it a total score out of 110. Why 110? Because that's what we did that we do. That's science.
Misha 04:30
Like how you started explaining the categories with for those of you who are listening, listening to this. Yeah. If you're not listening to this, you are not allowed to know what the categories are.
Tyler 04:47
All right. Sorry, everybody. Silly. There's a lot of silliness in this one and you know, it's got to it's got to stop now. We gotta get serious. Yeah,
Misha 04:56
this is very serious podcast. I
Tyler 05:01
mean, this movie is serious. This movie is a serious movie. So we have to bring our serious berets and our serious turtlenecks to this movie, or at least so the first like, third of it, it tries to be serious and then like, ditches it but anyway, we'll get into it.
Misha 05:16
Okay, I get why. Yeah. Like, animals start talking all of a sudden. Yeah. Which I also understand. Okay. I other than it being boring a lot of the time. Very boring. It was really hard to watch. I kind of liked it. And I didn't expect to. Yeah,
Tyler 05:39
I when it started, I had high hopes. And then the movie really pissed me off. So we can we can get into it. But first, let's tell the listeners. What the hell happens
Misha 05:49
in this movie. There are Inuits and there's this thing that happens where when a boy becomes a man, it's very boy, man heavy movie, which will return true about how much I dislike.
Tyler 06:13
There's like one woman in the movie. And it's an old lady. Yeah. There
Misha 06:17
are two of their three women total.
Tyler 06:21
Oh, there's the ones that are like tears and one human. And then there's like one small scene where they are. They're like three women checking out the brother, didn't he? But blinking you miss
Misha 06:31
like crashes into them or something. Right? Yeah, he said to them. Yeah, he was trying
Tyler 06:36
to get that flower garland to make fun of Kenai and there are three, like very much like the blondes following guests on around like they have no personality. They're just like, yes, cannon fodder. Boob fodder, if you will. Yeah. Okay.
Misha 06:51
So when a boy becomes a, to become a man, you have to
Tyler 06:59
have great concentration. And achieve. You
Misha 07:03
have to Okay, before you become a man, your gift at a particular age, you're gifted your totem and your totem is an animal representation of a
Tyler 07:20
like a personal attribute type. Yeah, something like that.
Misha 07:24
Right. So Kenai played by what? Key in Phoenix? Yeah,
Tyler 07:32
the Joker or the newest Joker?
Misha 07:35
Newest Joker? Yeah. Um, is gifted or his spirit totem is the bear of love. Yep. And men are decks. And they're like you love like, Oh, gross, yucky. Icky, and the US. Oh my god, I have so many problems with this fucking movie. So like Courage, a big man. And then patience. A mother woman. And I'm just like, Okay, fuck that. This is stupid. Yeah. Because, you know, moms can't be courageous. And man, men can't be patient and kind and whatever. So this is definitely promoting toxic masculinity Most definitely. And so he's gifted the bearer of love. And there's three brothers and the middle brother is an asshole. Yep. And teases Kenai for whatever. Okay, let's fast forward to this. Then they just that he that the beginning is so long.
Tyler 08:49
Yeah, the beginning is so long and like ultimately not necessary.
Misha 08:54
Yeah. Anyway, so he because he gets the spirit of the bear of love. And then their fish gets stolen. Because Kenai doesn't tie it down because you know rope? Yeah, lazy. A bear with
Tyler 09:12
theirs. There's that too. Yeah. And just generally he sees it fall and then does walks away too. So it's like, totally on him. And
Misha 09:20
so this bear steals their fish and then they go on this review the entire movie is just revenge porn. Where the they are like, Oh, we got to kill this bear for stealing our fish. Okay, we all know bear love fish. And so they go and wild trying to kill the bear, the eldest brother, Jana, Sitka, Sitka,
Tyler 09:49
the middle one is deny he dies Yes, it could sacrifice himself guys into just in a stupid way.
Misha 09:58
All right, the bear And the bear lives just shaved spoiler alert, she swims away then the rest of the movie is just revenge on that bear. So the Joaquin Phoenix bear. Human sorry, well keep Phoenix goes to kill the bear. But then the spirit of Sikka and his totem is the eagle of guidance turns Joaquin Phoenix into a bear. So then the rest of the movie is just Joaquin Phoenix. What's his name? Kena. Kenai, Kenai. Yep, as a bear. Hey, like confused, same as brave, confused at first hating it and then starts to realize, oh, bears are okay. Which takes way too long, way too long for him to realize that the monsters in the movie are the humans. Because humans are the worst. Everybody knows that. And actually know most humans don't know that, which is part of the problem and why humans are the worst. So then it's just this journey for Kenai
Tyler 11:15
and the cabbie meets code to go,
Misha 11:17
wait, I'm not there yet. To where the sun meets the lights meet the mountain, or something to like, solve his problems. The old lady told him that or something or no, the spirit of
Tyler 11:32
the old The old lady told him because somehow she she knew she couldn't speak bear but she could speak spirit and knew like what to tell him to do and help him and I don't know, she just shows about an origin. Like Hi
Misha 11:46
know who you are by your on your own. Yeah. And I mean, it's not that complicated of movie, but it is very slow in the wrong parts and very quick, and the parts that we need more explaining. So he goes on this journey to get to the mountain to turn back into a human along the way meets code of the cub. They he doesn't like Coda because he's annoying little child. But then they bond and they say that they're brothers. And then at the end, he turns in Oh, the middle brother. Nahi. Nahi. Yep, the middle brother. Is now he's on a revenge quest. Because this bear killed another bear killed. Thanks, right. Yeah. Oh, wait.
Tyler 12:35
Oh my god. Thanks. Yeah, he
Misha 12:36
saw the Kenai kills the bear. I forgot about that. Right. That's why he gets turned into a Bear Bear. The mother which we find out of coda? Yep. So he's a monster. He's the monster. Humans are the worst. Especially the men because they all have like their egos and pride about and like revenge drive, and they're awful. So long story short, he gets to the mountain, the middle brother is about to kill him. And then Sitka as an eagle shows up transforms Kenai back into human. And then Kenai says, I think I'd rather be a bear and help this little cub because I killed his mother, and turns back into a bear the end. Well,
Tyler 13:27
and then at the very end, then he's accepted into the tribe and gets to put his paw on the wall, because suddenly, humans and bears can coexist to be total friends now. So.
Misha 13:37
Okay, the last 10 minutes of this movie is when everything happens. And it's only 10 minutes
Tyler 13:43
long. Yeah, this movie is 85 minutes long. And a good chunk of it is absolutely unimportant. A bunch of a bunch of stupid songs that are horrible, a bunch of like, Goofy, stupid side animals that they just threw in there. Like, maybe this will make the movie. Okay. And anyway, we can get into all that. But
Misha 14:06
for that horrible synopsis, it was just so weirdly paced that I couldn't figure out what was important and what wasn't. I like
Tyler 14:17
it's kind of that type of movie though. It's like, it's, it's like not much happened. It's very boring. And it's very short at the same time, but it stretches on and it just nothing really, like it's just not interesting.
Misha 14:32
It's like the first 40 Plus it's like, 4040 20 where you 40% Just world building, the
Tyler 14:40
old 442
Misha 14:44
formation that 40% just traveling. Nothing's happening him in Kota, Kenai in Kota, and then all of a sudden, like, and then the plot takes place in like 20% of the movie.
Tyler 14:58
Yeah, I'm fine with it. Yeah, and we've talked about this before, like a good travel story or travel montage even in some cases like it but that can work. If you do it right, you can show the growth in a shorter period of time like think Goofy Movie, right? We see we see the growth of the father son relationship, and also the the strains on that relationship. The strains on max because he's lying about what they're doing. We see that all like very expertly done in a short, like traveled sequence that's like maybe, you know, 10 minutes long or something, maybe more. This is like, a good chunk of the movie and not done well. It's like really badly paced and like, we don't really learn anything until like he said, blammo at the end, kind of,
Misha 15:41
and then you think, okay, he's been the whole time wanting to become a man the entire time. And after learning about the importance of love, you think that he could become a human and sort of bring that to his people and undo the toxic ness of rejecting love and relationships in his with his people. But it said he's like, I'll just be a bear. Yeah,
Tyler 16:15
that's a bear. Yeah. Which I
Misha 16:19
get, cuz I don't want to be human either. But why can't he? Yeah, I mean, why can't any other bear adopt this little cub? I'm sure they would. And we're all the women bear. Yeah,
Tyler 16:33
there's a super friendly Big Boss bear played by Michael voice by Michael Clarke Duncan, he would have happily adopted coda, taking care of CODA and the weird dopey one with the weird like, part in the middle like he had sort of like all of Robin Hood hair cut like a Robin Hood haircut. Oh,
Misha 16:52
stupid. Yeah,
Tyler 16:54
it was a problem. The only so there are a bunch of for those that haven't seen this movie. Like as they travel, they meet like this pair of moose who are just what are their names? The bobbin
Misha 17:08
jargon to do it. It's Rick Maraniss and Dave
Tyler 17:14
Thomas. Yeah, that's the old like strange brew SCTV thing that's been around since the early 80s. But I hated this movie. Yeah, I fucking hated it. Yeah, absolutely hate. The Rams. The Rams. I thought were they were all they were stupid. I did kind of like the fucking the yelling at their echo. I thought that was funny. But then it comes back and it's like, are we already saw this? We don't need it again.
Misha 17:41
You're just rude. Cat collars?
Tyler 17:44
Fuck you. Yeah, I didn't like their attitude. I just like that one little thing where like, the yell movie
Misha 17:48
is so sexist. I can't take it. Um, but
Tyler 17:52
yeah, so let's let's get into the scoring. And then like, there are a lot of things I want to like kind of touch on. But I think they they'll come up as we talked about, like side characters. And so the first step is originality. And, I mean,
Misha 18:08
it's like this. The story is not original at all. Right? Like, somebody has this idea. And then they get transformed to slowly learn how they're wrong. Right? Like that's kind of like
Tyler 18:25
Freaky Friday.
Misha 18:26
We've seen this brave, brave, came out before brave when did
Tyler 18:32
Freaky Friday come out. 2003 Freaky Friday came out the same year and it's a much better like this
Misha 18:37
overplayed like you have to transform into this thing to learn this lesson and then it takes too long. Yeah. To understand other people beings whatever's perspective and it just was that's part of what made this boring. Yeah, yeah.
Tyler 18:54
And also the whole thing like I you know, doing the the copious amounts of research, I usually do AK wiki pedia. I read that like, the kind of grain of the seed of idea that became this movie was the CEO of Disney was like, hey, like, The Lion King Platinum Edition is coming out. Remember how that movie was really successful? Let's like make another animal movie. And then like, from there, Brother Bear became something. It wasn't a movie that was like, let's set out from the beginning to tell a indigenous story, right? Like with indigenous people with people of color. It wasn't that like it was let's make another like animal movie. And then like they're like, oh, but let's make it North America. What's the king of the jungle in America? That is the grizzly bear, obviously. So let's make a movie. Oh, and like Native Americans live near bears. So let's put them in it. Like I feel like that's where it went. And then like there was no real long hard look at like, what was the important part of this story? You know, right kind of thing. I guess originally they were thinking about doing a weird like King Lear thing like a blind bear would like die. powders which could have been kind of cool. not original. not original, but kind of like an interesting this right? Yeah. So I don't know, I think this isn't like as unoriginal as a lot of the movies we've seen like, right, you know, Christmas Carol, for example, or Aladdin being
Misha 20:15
like in an Inuit society because they didn't have to do that.
Tyler 20:23
Yeah. But yeah, I mean, in the beginning, so the beginning, it like starts out really promising. It's in like Yupik I think is the language and the narrator who is an anthropologist and like a researcher wrote about that. That beginning Well, we can get into it with story, but that beginning was cool, like so promising and then they just like, go nowhere with
Misha 20:45
that, too. Like a standard. Here's a Goofy kid's movie for kids. Yeah.
Tyler 20:52
Instead of a long, hard look at Grizzlies are Grizzlies call it a long, hard look. That's the movie.
Misha 21:05
That's Grizzly Man.
Tyler 21:06
That's Grizzly Man. Yeah. And what haunts me is that in the faces of those bears that I filmed, I discovered no kinship, no mercy. That blank stare speaks only of a Halfboard interest in food or whatever he says. Yeah, that would be so great. So So anyway, yeah, I think it's less original than brave. It's less original than it's, I don't know. I don't think it's less original than both because bolt is like every like misfit island of VISTA toy reject from all the other Disney movies put into
Misha 21:40
one movie. So I feel like this is on par with bolt.
Tyler 21:44
You think it's more original than big heroes? Well, Big Hero Six is a comic book. So yeah, okay, I'm fine with that. Let's give it up for Okay. And let's get into the story which we already kind of covered a lot of the problems with your with your summary which often happens well that's okay. We can kind of rehash some and then bring up other cool things that we skipped over I think here's my hot fake. So in the beginning, are one of my hot takes, I might have more that are going to pop up so everyone everyone who's listening, listen up. But in the in the beginning, the brothers are like, you know, going to get their totems right. And Kenai who's like a total fucking doofus causes a caribou stampede and deny he gets kicked in the back of the head. A kick that could have killed him probably should have killed him on my thinking is from the rest of the movie deny he is suffering from brain damage and that's why he he goes into like a murderous rage so
Misha 22:44
I just watched this movie. I do not remember that seed.
Tyler 22:49
So before the Tina Turner song before they jump before they jump in their canoes Kenai Kenai is a fucking like he jumps on a mammoth and like, oh, by the way, listeners, this takes place is this take place this, this takes place, like when woolly mammoths around so maybe like post ice age but not before that before the
Misha 23:10
very tail end of the ice age or like just or just after?
Tyler 23:17
Something like that? Yeah. Yeah. in what is now presumably because of the Kodiak Grizzlies and the the Inuit people like Alaska, Alaska or Canada or something. Yeah. And also the name like Sitka, and then he, you know, sounds like Denali. But yeah, he gets kicked in the back of the head by a rampage and caribou and like, that would kill somebody. Like, go back and watch it like it. It looks like go back and watch this movie. Oh, no, don't go back and watch the movie. Don't
Misha 23:47
touch it too. And no, did it?
Tyler 23:51
No, no, I that I wouldn't do that to my, one of my best friends in the whole world. I will not tell you to go watch this movie again. But just go find that part. And I think he's just suffering from like, he slowly but surely he goes like mad and then suddenly when his brother turns back from a Behringer human and then decides to be Barragan he's like, okay, cool. And like it just that I'm yeah, he like him. Like, in like a minute. He doesn't have any emotional changes. So whether you're a bear, you're a bear. Oh, yeah, you look better as a bear. So wait keen. You guys can is the main character name. So Kenai
Misha 24:28
is just like, hello. I just transformed from this bear. You're trying to murder into your brother. And the brother is like, ah, uh huh. Yep. And I'm gonna go back to being a bear. And I was like, yeah,
Tyler 24:43
and there was the brother says, like, Oh, you look better as a bear. Because I can't like deal with my emotions. I had to make a
Misha 24:49
joke. 3030 fucking seconds of the most important part of the movie. Yeah.
Tyler 24:54
And the brother in the thing is like, this pissed me off too. It's like that brother in the big And when when, when Sitka sacrifices themselves stupidly and then and then Kenai is like I'm gonna go murder that bear. I'm gonna go Merck that fucking bear dinner. He's like, Look, I'm not mad at the bear about this. I'm mad at you like he shows us like, this wisdom about what you're the lesson of the movie. But then then, but then he turns into fucking Captain Ahab. So
Misha 25:21
okay, and he's holding the bear Totem. Yeah, that he found after Kenai turned into a bear and he's holding the fucking bear totem of love. And then he's like, I'm gonna go murder some bear. Yeah.
Tyler 25:35
And he puts it on his fear, which on in the YouTube video cinema sends about this movie, he says like, and then he created death lover or something like that. Like he took the spear and the love and make death lover. Yeah. Shout out the Cinema Sins. Yeah, the story is, and then.
Misha 25:53
Okay, so I have an important update, and I meant to do this earlier. Okay, this is important. I've been watching avatar, Last Airbender. And you will right? It takes until Season Two to actually start enjoying it. So I like suffered through season one and I was like, Okay, I have to make it through and then seriously season two episode one. I was like, I'm getting i Okay, I'm getting into this. Oh,
Tyler 26:24
I'm glad I'm glad that's not the best TV
Misha 26:26
show ever. I think you're full of shit when you say that it is but I am appreciating the story and the characters a little bit more. A little bit more. They introduced some characters I do not like but we don't need to get into that such
Tyler 26:43
as I said we don't
Misha 26:45
need to get into that. Well
Tyler 26:46
we now we have to I mean we can cut this out of the episode but you got to mention your because if you're anti if you're anti tough than this, or you haven't met talk yet, okay.
Misha 26:55
That tough. Who's tough? That
Tyler 26:57
sounds familiar. Tough is the blind girl. Yeah, man tight TAF. I love tough. She's great. She's so annoying.
Misha 27:08
Anyway, like what what are but you know who I am liking more soccer. name all the characters. So?
Tyler 27:15
Soccer. Yeah, soccer gets much better in season.
Misha 27:18
I know a tag. Yeah, I like soccer a lot more in season two. So that's part of why like, okay, yeah, anyway. Yeah. The reason I brought this up is because Dave Thomas, who played to the moose, yep. He did voice acting. Or he was an actor in The Legend of Korra are nice. related. Yeah. Was he uh huh. I went to his IMDB page and it listed the Legend of Korra interesting.
Tyler 27:52
There's another dude from Brother Bear who was in either avatar or or Cora DB Sweeney. But what was seen? Yeah, he was there. Another guy in this movie played the adult Ng, and Avatar and Legend of Korra I believe. Okay, you
Misha 28:14
just spoiled Legend of Korra. And now I'm never watching it.
Tyler 28:19
Because adult Aang shows up at some point. Or does he?
Misha 28:22
Oh, good say the you right? Does he who knows?
Tyler 28:30
He does the voice of Sitka. And apparently, the older brother. Yeah. And apparently did not he was voiced by the guy who played Simba in The Lion King.
Misha 28:42
Did you read his Wikipedia page? I
Tyler 28:44
did. I did. I did not know. I didn't know anything about him. either. Because I
Misha 28:50
I also liked it up. Listeners in case you're wondering what we're talking about. He died by suicide. It was very sad. Yeah. Sad. Anyway,
Tyler 28:58
story. Okay, so we've already said the story is slow. Not a lot happens. And they don't and then when things do happen that need to be explained that they really gloss over them. So
Misha 29:10
basically, it's just like, This guy hates bears. turns into a bear realizes bears are okay, and people are bad, and then stays a bear.
Tyler 29:20
But then also like bears and people are friends at the end which like no, just him. Yeah, but yeah, sure.
Misha 29:28
It's him,
Tyler 29:29
which is, but then like, there's but then yeah, there's but then. Yeah, the grandma. Older shaman lady is sort of a deus ex machina the spirits, the use of spirits and the Northern Lights are really like, like because magic because you know, whenever we need it, it happens. The the bears are all presented as very friendly, but they're also like that
Misha 30:02
Like to
Tyler 30:03
front I mean, I don't know, I wasn't I wasn't a big fan of like the whole like Bear community. There's something off about it. They were too friendly. They also have like a Croatian bear. Yeah serbo Croat. And it's very like on like, borderline racist caricature with like, like, dirty and big lips. And like, why was why did that happen? At all?
Misha 30:27
I don't know. I was confused about the accents the place the time that this takes place in like, I went down a rabbit. My research was like, the timeline of grizzly bears it being
30:41
brought to bear.
Misha 30:44
Why, Brother Bear? Would you say Brother Bear?
Tyler 30:48
It's not called. You just said no. The timeline of No, sir. Okay, I got you. Sorry. I'm listening. I'm listening.
Misha 30:57
Timeline of grizzly bears being extant. Okay. Like, when did they evolve into existence? Okay, the overlap of mammoths, the overlap of humans like the time and place of every because as soon as mammals showed up, I was like, What the fuck are we watching? I don't know when this takes place. And I got so maybe I think I was doing I think it was doing that research when that l kick in the head st probably happened because I am interested in animals and that kind of thing. Yeah. And this the first what, half an hour of this movie was very pretty but boring. Yeah,
Tyler 31:38
I mean, I didn't even think it was really that pretty. To be honest. I thought the title was what we'll get into it was the animation but in the story is mismatched. It's like it tries to start telling like an indigenous story and then like switches to a bear, buddy comedy. And then it doesn't really ever come together. So I mean, I think this story fucking sucks. That's what I'm basically trying to say. I think this is now Yes. The worst story. I think this story is worse than bolts story. I think this is a really bad story. It because mainly because it's like really pissed me off. Because it could have been like the very beginning we see a glimmer of like what this could have maybe been if they had actually like, given a shit. And I'm sorry for the people that actually did give a shit that worked on the movie, but like it doesn't look like you did. So. I think this is a fucking one. I think this is a worst story. Whoa. Okay. I think this is a horrible story.
Misha 32:37
Holy shit. I do not agree with that. I don't agree. Because, okay, a person turns into a bear who hates bears and we've seen this with Brave, okay, it's okay. Brave. What a brave get brave. Got a three. It's the same fucking story. People who hate bears. Turn into bears end up liking bears.
Tyler 32:58
But that was but but with Brave. It was about the mother daughter relationship. And there was more of that like this could have been a brother Brother relationship and gone into that, but they didn't do that. And brave they did like and also the mother didn't hate bears. They were
Misha 33:11
like we need a precocious child. You all know is my least favorite thing? Yeah.
Tyler 33:17
And the mother didn't hate bears. It was the husband so that's the husband hunting the his wife who's a bear like added an extra level of dangerous than braid, but it was about I mean, I'm fine with like a two. Maybe it shouldn't deserve a one but yes,
Misha 33:31
you just got so bad real horny for the beginning. And then it
Tyler 33:36
I got super horny for the beginning.
Misha 33:38
But yeah, it didn't follow through. And I I don't know. Fine. Let's go with it. He deserves a one.
Tyler 33:44
Okay, let's go with the two. Okay,
Misha 33:46
I'm okay with the two. I don't think it's as bad as a two.
Tyler 33:50
I think it's I think it's really bad. Like we've only get
Misha 33:54
a three. Honestly, I blacked out. I can't remember anything. All right. A to have it on par with bolt.
Tyler 34:02
Okay, next up animation. And I like that it's traditional. I like that it's most of there are a couple of computer animation parts or a
Misha 34:11
couple of parts were they and they shouldn't have
Tyler 34:15
I don't know why they did like this there was a SAM part of the salmon thing and I feel like part of the there
Misha 34:19
was like, like log that fell. And I was like, yeah, like shitty.
Tyler 34:23
I think part of that. Like when there was like the travel montage when they're going to get there totems, and Tina Turner was singing. I feel like some of that was maybe computer animation. Yeah, there are a couple of parts that didn't look
Misha 34:37
very. The scenery was beautiful.
Tyler 34:40
The scenery was beautiful. The characters were so so I thought I thought the characters were okay to hold up. They were okay. They held up. They were okay. Yeah, they were okay. Okay, Taylor, they held up and they were okay. But they were not great. Okay,
Misha 34:58
I didn't say great. Yeah, I Like the animation of this movie,
Tyler 35:03
the main character, the character's keen eye. I disagree a little bit Kenai looks bad. I think he and I like his head shape as a bear. He looks weird as a bear. And yeah, he was there's rough is what his like, that's not I mean, I don't want to tell you to watch the movie again. But he looks weird, I think. And as the main character he shouldn't look as weird as he did. And all those fucking animals riding on the Mammoth and why were they wherever there's like a family of rabbits on the mammoth. Why were the moose on the mammoth? Like this movie?
Misha 35:36
Okay, Disney met that's part of Disney. Like, all these animals just get along, they can talk to each other. Why weren't the fish fucking sentient? Yeah,
Tyler 35:48
like so we could hear their terror screams in their egg, their agonizing pain as they're getting eaten during the old bear sing song alone. But
Misha 35:56
there's, there's this weird thing in Catholicism and human society where people don't consider fish and sea creatures as fucking animals. And it really pisses me off my PSA for this episode. And, like, just because fish are different for mammals, doesn't mean they're not smart. And doesn't mean that they're not sentient beings. That doesn't mean they can't feel pain and have emotion because guess what? All of those things are true. They can feel all of the things and fucky Disney for saying that all of the mammals can. And birds can have feelings and emotions and whatever and not the fish. No coward. Yeah, I there's,
Tyler 36:49
by the way, just the same year. I think the same year, Finding Nemo came out.
Misha 36:56
God dammit.
Tyler 36:57
So gross.
Misha 36:59
So why don't we just have Nemo instead of whatever he ends up doing? Because I can't remember. make his way to Alaska and then get in by one of these bears the end because apparently fish don't matter in this.
Tyler 37:17
So I think animation is it holds up but it's not great. I would say some are somewhere near I mean, I think Did you give it I'd say like five.
Misha 37:27
Oh no, you're wrong.
Tyler 37:29
I don't think I'm wrong.
Misha 37:30
Okay. The mountains. The snowy mountains are beautiful. The spirits were beautiful. The aurora borealis the Northern Lights were beautiful. You're wrong. You're wrong.
Tyler 37:40
Yeah. But then there's like a bunch of dumb. No,
Misha 37:44
just sort of clunkiness it was like oops, like, that's not so good. But overall, it was good. Tyler, you're wrong.
Tyler 37:51
I don't think it's as good as like, brave or bolt or 06 You're wrong. I don't think it's as good as Goofy Movie.
Misha 38:00
It is as good as brave bolt and big. It's as good as those.
Tyler 38:05
I just don't agree. Oh,
Misha 38:08
it was so that was my favorite part of the movie. The waterfalls, the water, like the river the all of the things. It was my only thing that I genuinely liked about this movie.
Tyler 38:19
Okay, I'm willing to go to what I think you are about to say which is a seven
Misha 38:25
All right. Thanks.
Tyler 38:26
I don't agree but fine. Emery was saying Lou in lieu of that that I get to get the final stand the next category of music and sound How about that?
Misha 38:39
We played in cricket maybe not we'll see there there's
Tyler 38:46
too much Phil Collins for and he was going to have a bigger part to play in this like a lot Tarzan. i This is the the tilcon songs are horrible. The Tina Turner song bless her soul but it's a fucking horror show of a song. Yeah, the score is bad. Yeah. And with something we haven't really X are also not very sound effects are bad and something we haven't talked about. As far as I remember, maybe we have is the actual like voice capture is sometimes bad. Like the actual like the recording of the voice actors in the studio. Like the guy the kid who plays Coda sounds awful. I think it's in it sounds like a recording thing. Like the mic doesn't sound good. It might just be he's got a scratchy little voice. And like sometimes the like Joaquin Phoenix sounds like he's really phoning it in. And like Bob and Doug. I mean, well, we can I think this is a I think this is another one. I think this is awful. This is worse. This last music the worst, the worst music I
Misha 39:46
agree. Okay, I was cackling with laughter at every single song just like I can't believe they thought I cannot believe they thought Got these songs worked? Yeah, this was atrocious. The songs were absolute garbage. Yeah.
Tyler 40:12
What's the name of the song that like the bears? Saying, What the Welcome
Misha 40:16
to our family. I just wrote down what I like what I thought they'd be called. I don't know what they're called. So the first song is Tina Turner, which I love Tina Turner. I love Tina Turner, but I'm not for this movie. It's
Tyler 40:31
why would like
Misha 40:35
any sense? Why didn't they have Tina Turner, and a whole bunch of other movies. And then the songs with Phil. Welcome to like everything. It was like, the Phil Collins version of Randy Newman like yeah, okay, I'm just sitting what's happening in this very literal way. Yeah.
Tyler 40:54
And then, like, and then again, it's like another missed opportunity. Instead of getting like, you know, there was some, like, some indigenous lyrics. And like one song that was sung by like, the Bulgarian women's choir, I think like, Yeah, but like, you pick, I don't know if I'm saying it correctly, but like, yeah. But why the fuck didn't they like this? You know, we've harped on this before. But like, in Mallanna I mean, I know that Milan is like later, and they came out later when, like, you know, people are more attuned to racial sensitivity and stuff like that. But like, just for those that have seen Juana and if you dare watch this movie, just compare, like, the, the representation through through music and watch
Misha 41:42
Molana first, then watch. Yeah, so
Tyler 41:45
it's like they they just instead of getting like, and maybe it would have been because like, the indigenous representation in this is very tokenized. So maybe music on top of that would have been worse. I don't know. But it just felt like another missed opportunity that they didn't have like, like, indigenous, like music and lyrics and like, like seeing singers and actors. Well, there's that too. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Get into that. But yeah,
Misha 42:12
it was very jarring. i If I were Phil Collins, he wrote the music. He wrote a lot of it. Yeah, yeah, he on a new father only reading children's books and didn't understand like, the nuanced English language of how to make things subtle.
Tyler 42:31
I have no idea. I don't know. And again, see he's like
Misha 42:35
reading see Spot Run, and then be like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna write a movie. I'm gonna write a song about bears being part of a family. Like
Tyler 42:42
what the fuck was he thinking? And I don't remember Tarzan's music maybe Tarzan's was awful too but I think he won a Grammy couple years or one Yeah, whenever it happens yeah, I'm glad there's do the
Misha 42:55
math for us of when we get to Yeah, yeah doing it.
Tyler 43:00
I'm glad there's a big gap because I can't handle any more Phil Collins right now like there's just there was what was
Misha 43:06
that was okay, it was awful but I will say I laughed a lot every time a song started Yeah, I good laughing is good for you. That's that's true to improve your mental health by like, watching absolute shit. This will This isn't bad like it will make you I mean it made Tyler angry
Tyler 43:28
I got so bad when I heard that. When I heard that Tina Turner song I didn't laugh I got I almost punched my laptop it was
Misha 43:39
I did scream and I was like
Tyler 43:43
oh my god when the earth was young these are the lyrics when the earth was young in the air was sweet in the mountains kiss the sky in the great beyond with its many paths man and nature lived side by side in this wilderness of danger and beauty lived three brothers bonded by love their hearts full of joy they asking for guidance reaching out to the skies up above and on and on it goes once
Misha 44:06
the Tina Turner sign
Tyler 44:10
there I lost it when
Misha 44:13
my God I'm the worst experience we get what does it take place when they got fired yeah on
Tyler 44:30
a mountain
Misha 44:35
I love Tina Turner but and Bree thank you
Tyler 44:48
one of the mountains kiss the mountains. God All right.
Tyler 45:00
Cheese. It's something this stinks let's let's move on. The music is stinky and I'm getting all sweaty and angry.
Misha 45:09
Okay, I would like to read the lyrics from the song welcome. Which I just called the Brother Bear song. It is yeah. Welcome. Yeah. Welcome to our family is what I call it. So it's when
Tyler 45:22
Darwin had some insane Yeah, that would have some insane lyrics. Yeah. Oh, good.
Misha 45:26
Welcome to our family time. Welcome to our brotherly time. We're happy, forgiven and taken to the friends we're making. There's nothing we won't do. Welcome to our family time. This is the best time of all, ya know the best time of all. We're here to share it all. Oh my god. Boy, every song is just trash. Yeah,
Tyler 45:55
it's all it's all. Yeah,
Misha 45:57
awful. Big stinking one. Okay. Yeah. protagonist.
Tyler 46:00
What, uh, he's, he's, he's a he's a doofus. He's, he's, he's the type of macho toxic teen that you don't like, you know, like, you know, sometimes, you know, all of them. Okay, all right. Well, not not all teens are horrible. But this guy for sure is
Misha 46:21
so tired of these boys centric revenge. Yeah, movies. Like calm down. Just fucking calm down. All right, we get it you like are sad about the size of your decks and gotta prove something calm down. Just yeah, I
Tyler 46:36
know. You're going bears. Yeah, I know. You wanted like a big total. No, it's like a big ol wiener button said you got the bear of love and fucking deal with it. And
Misha 46:42
like, what? Okay, there used to be a time. I don't know if this is true, but I'm just gonna say it used to be a time when platonic love would end like expression of love and emotions and affection, like both verbally and physically or accepted in society. Is this true? Maybe not. It's just how I feel when I read and watch Lord of the Rings. But like nowadays, it's like this fucking toxic masculinity in this movie. And in real life is teaching people that platonic friendship, love, affection. And intimacy is like not okay. And this movie just perpetuates that fucking come down. We get it you have to be like super tough and courageous and like be assholes to each other because that's what manliness is and masculinity is and that's bullshit. And so, normalize platonic intimacy and love. That's all Yeah.
Tyler 47:39
Yeah, preach that
Misha 47:40
like with the bro hugs, the fist bumps the like, barely touching each other. It's bullshit.
Tyler 47:46
Anyway, get in there and hug man. Just get in there and hug a man. Give him a big smooch.
Misha 47:52
Brother, God, seriously,
Tyler 47:54
everyone go out there find a brother and hug them.
Misha 47:58
Yeah, God, like, it's okay to show affection for somebody. That and it doesn't have to be romantic. And I'm like, so upset by the stupid world we live in when men are so. Like, what's the word I'm looking for? Like weak and fragile, and can't be vulnerable. Just shut up. Oh, that's what this movie made me feel. Yeah.
Tyler 48:29
So So protagonist, protagonist. I mean, I think
Misha 48:37
fine, and I'm confused by his motivations and actions, especially at the end. But
Tyler 48:43
he's like, so boring and so toxic. I mean, he does at least like learn and grow and become like a good brother to the bear takes
Misha 48:51
him so long. He is so stupid. He's so dumb.
Tyler 48:56
I like him less than I mean, he's kind of on par with like, Milo maybe?
Misha 49:03
Yeah. Yeah, I
Tyler 49:04
love Milo from Atlantis.
Misha 49:06
I was thinking of
Tyler 49:07
three. I think he's not as is not as good as I mean, like flick is awful. But he's like flick is better than
Misha 49:13
flick has actual growth at the edge. And honestly, the last scene with flick standing up to Hopper, like, saved him a little bit. It really did. It really did. And like you believe it, you believe that like he's been beaten and overcomes that torment. With this is just like, Oh, I'm gonna stay there. Why are you complaining the whole time?
Tyler 49:42
Yeah, so three years makes sense. And for those who haven't listened to our first episode of Bug's Life, go back and listen to it. Maybe not now, but at some point, it's a good episode. If
Misha 49:49
you haven't listened to every single one of our episodes. Go do that. I was gonna say but go do that.
Tyler 49:56
You're gonna say soccer but probably but we'll cut it Yeah go hug a brother sidekick is this coda is he the sidekick he I guess he's the site yeah who's like yeah who's got also got like no room for growth he's just missing his mom and that turns out he's a child but it's like he's there as he's there as a plot device rather than like a character he's like there to get get Kenai to the place and like, like some something for Kenai to do or like interact with rather than like a fleshed out character on it so
Misha 50:33
right rather than Kenai actually soul searching, it's just this kid being like humans are the monsters humans are the monsters humans are the monsters humans are the monsters Oh,
Tyler 50:45
and telling a lot of boring stories that everyone in the animal kingdom like rolls arrived the mammoths like at one one part I did like is when code is like telling a really long story. You see one of the Mamet's like roll his eyes, or her eyes, which is really good.
Misha 50:59
There are like no female animals or anybody really in this movie. My guess is that there
Tyler 51:06
were two there were two bears. Well, we don't we can't they can't assume they're their genders. But there are two bears that were really loving that they're called like, three we can assume their genders. There were two that's a good point.
Misha 51:18
They were called the The makers of this movie
Tyler 51:19
idea. That's yeah, clarify. Yeah. There they were. I think their names were the lover bears. One of them was was voiced by Greg Proops from like, Whose Line Is It Anyway?
Misha 51:29
Yes, I do love Greg Proops.
Tyler 51:31
But it's like yeah, there's that was their names lover bears, and they were clearly horniest fuck, there was also a mom, Barney, I want to say with a bunch of kids like that just stamp on the tire trouble. Bunnies like the fuck, like
Misha 51:45
only females in this movie females women. What? Because it's animals like okay,
Tyler 51:53
I know. I just wanted to do the Frankie voice.
Misha 51:58
Frankie Oh, the
Tyler 51:59
Frankie are awful. Yeah.
Misha 52:00
Oh my God. Are you a fan of DS nine?
Tyler 52:04
I do like DS nine. Yeah,
Misha 52:06
I do. Hang up and quit this podcast. Anyway. The old wise woman okay. Yeah, then there are just a mother's two moms. And then just like everybody it's like women can't be other than the grandma. There's this like there's no idea of women being independent courageous. Like any of that. And we'll get into that soon was strong female lead.
Tyler 52:31
Yeah. Sidekick does does Coda deserve a little marginal bit higher than then? Kenai protagonist I think yeah, but just on 1.0 Because of the being cute no
Misha 52:50
same as yes the same as Kenai.
Tyler 52:53
Okay I'm fine with that because I think he's boring.
Misha 52:55
Yeah All right,
Tyler 52:58
the villain is Kenai
Misha 53:03
Yeah, cuz
Tyler 53:04
he kills he kills he murders man like but in this but in this one it's a bit too abstract. It's a bit too abstract to say man and this one I think but you I mean you're right but it's like
Misha 53:16
so can we have the protagonist also be the villain not really in this scoring Christmas Carol.
Tyler 53:24
We did it for Christmas Carol.
Misha 53:25
No, we didn't I think we do every character anyway,
Tyler 53:29
I think we'd actually I can't remember because that I think you're right i mean this doesn't have a villain really like if we're looking at the structure the movie doesn't have a built in it also doesn't have Henshaw villain. One One Frenchman as well. Okay, strong female lead. One there's no strong female lead the grandma the wise old Native American trope does not count as a strong female lead absolutely not also by the way while they the spirits were like incensed with sorry I'm jumping back the story but the spirits were like incensed that his murder of the bear but they didn't seem like if they just like changed him into a bear. They didn't there was no anger there like in every summary of this movie, it says angered angering the spirits he's transformed into a bear the spirits just didn't look angry. They just father says you're going to anger the spirits you're going to write okay. Oh, I don't I don't care. Whatever. Yeah. Oh, now you're trying to be wise. Whatever.
Misha 54:26
Yeah. It's like yeah, which also let me not understand me
Tyler 54:31
pop this zit and like try to milk it caribou and whatever. Sorry. Just quick
Misha 54:39
that's pretty fucking crass. Quick little.
Tyler 54:41
It doesn't have to be a full like, side bit but like teens, I'm sorry, but some I'm sorry. I'm sorry teens bipoc representation slash portrayal? I think okay, so I think it does deserve a tiny bit of points for like, like having characters, indigenous characters and like bringing in the language Bringing in a language experts. Right? But not not a lot of points. So I think, yeah,
Misha 55:06
I think I did a little bit of research. No expert did a little bit of research trying to figure out like, How accurate is is when does this take place? Like all that stuff? I think, you know, honestly, I think it did. Okay. And the cast was more diverse than we've seen in a lot of movies. Yes,
Tyler 55:30
but they didn't get like any like, no
Misha 55:34
indigenous native casting, though.
Tyler 55:37
Yeah. With the exception of the narrator at the beginning, right? Yes. Yeah. But yeah, like Michael Clarke, Duncan, African American, they did have some people of color in here, which was good. Oh, that
Misha 55:47
was played by a black actor. Yep.
Tyler 55:54
Okay, I mean, but I think I I am loath to give this a high score. Yes, it's better than my with most of what we've seen, but it's
Misha 56:02
and the reason why I'm saying that is because we're looking at Atlantis, and we gave it a three because of their caste, but with which I would say is on par with a cast with Brother Bear but more because they brought in the Yupik language if I'm saying that correctly, and all like it's the whole thing is about indigenous people. Yeah,
Tyler 56:29
I think for I think yeah, I don't either. Yeah, definitely. If if anyone listening hasn't figured this out by now. We are not experts on anything. We just have some strong opinions and pretended science but okay. Fun actually one really quick thing it I guess it's animation related or but it's not quite animation, but something that doesn't really fit the category that I wanted mentioned is the aspect ratio changed during the movie. Did it win after Kenai turns into a baron falls off the ledge in a move that would have definitely killed him because his brother died in a similar fashion but anyway and he blacks out and doesn't drowned Yeah, but it actually I would seen I saw there probably drowned Kenai falls a very long distance into the water and then like rolls over and miraculously doesn't die and gets glides onto the beach. But when he wakes up the and everything like, like right before the scene where he talks to the old lady, the aspect ratio widens. And my only guess would be that they're trying to do some bullshit like, metaphor, like his his viewpoint is his worldview is widening, but it's not his worldview doesn't widen until he meets all the cool bears and eats a bunch of salmon. So it's like really
Misha 57:56
a very long time for his worldview. I didn't notice it's singing again. It's clumsy. This is the type of movie that would be fine to have playing in the background while you do something else. That's not true. Because the music you would stop and you would
Tyler 58:13
be like chopping tomatoes and then you hear and then turn the song and slice your finger off. Yeah. Golden. Round Yeah, weakness. Fun Factor. This movie is not fun. This movie is not fun. The characters that are supposed to be fun, the dumb click like SCTV strange brew thing that's been done. 100 million times is not fun. The rams that are like movie, have boners and slam into each other are not fun. The Mammoth like nothing's fun. Like the chipmunks talking to each other.
Misha 58:51
This was not fun.
Tyler 58:53
Do we give it a stink? Do we give the old one? I mean, what else kind of one Christmas carol got one.
Misha 59:01
Yeah, it's funny. I was like, I like this movie. Yeah, it wasn't fun. Yeah, I don't know why I said that. I think it's because it wasn't like super offensive. Yeah,
Tyler 59:11
it wasn't like a it wasn't like it wasn't a nightmare. Like, like A Christmas Carol.
Misha 59:20
I didn't feel I didn't feel like I endured trauma.
Tyler 59:24
Yeah, it wasn't like oh, yeah. boltless traumatic, was traumatic. I don't know, do we I think I mean, it's just
Misha 59:34
so this wasn't we're in it's just like a slog. Yeah,
Tyler 59:38
I don't know like to I mean, I'm trying to think of like,
Misha 59:42
brave what Wait, wait, but was was Baltimore fun? I know, but was not. Okay. These are very different. Well, it was like, fun parts and then just like, oh,
Tyler 59:56
yeah, they're not fun for different reasons. Like brave also wasn't fun. Flat was just flat. Bambi also like wasn't fun. But that wasn't like what it was all about. This movie would have benefited
Misha 1:00:08
the NES. Bambi was more fun than that. I would agree. More fun than boring. Yeah,
Tyler 1:00:13
I think this movie would have would have been better if if it had been. Yeah. I think if this movie had taken a naturalistic turn, like Bambi did it would have maybe turned out better, but I don't know. Yeah, I think at one. It's not fun one.
Misha 1:00:29
Yeah. At all. Just now.
Tyler 1:00:33
doesn't sit right. I don't really think it deserves like a bunch of negative points. Because it to I don't think it should get any negative. Yeah, I mean, it's nothing. Nothing doesn't sit right with it. It just is black. So yeah. Yeah. And as far as effervescence to like, I don't think it you were you said something earlier about Disney magic. Yeah, what
Misha 1:00:54
were some parts, like when they introduced this spirits? And there were like, tiny little parts where it's like, oh, okay, more of that. And then they didn't, and it's like, they should have, okay, what I think they should have done with this movie is like full Magic Movie. And like, so you take this idea of this Inuit tribe, and they introduce magic into their right, there's magic in their culture of spirits and stuff like that. Make that the entire movie, where he's like, talking to spirits where spirits are guiding him throughout the whole thing. And to help like, they didn't need the sidekick, the little they could have or they could have but they like, I really think they should have had more of the magical element in it. Yeah, because they just like sort of, like use that to like, fast forward instead of at part of the cultural symbolism and part of their society. So they introduced it a little bit. I think it could get parts of it felt like a little bit a little bit.
Tyler 1:02:04
It's exactly what happened with Brave too. Yeah. They introduced like Willow the wisp and magic it but then it was like half baked. And
Misha 1:02:12
this animation I think was better than brave, even though we gave it the same score.
Tyler 1:02:20
Yeah, we were split. Like I thought the animation and brave was better. Right? You didn't like it? And I didn't like this animation. Especially the
Misha 1:02:29
magic parts.
1:02:30
Okay,
Misha 1:02:32
I thought were the best parts of the animation and the scenery. And to me, that's what made it feel like it could be like, did it with that and then just were like, Oh, we have to make this stupid for children. Yeah.
Tyler 1:02:49
So what do you think of for like, bonus points and effervescence to give it a little bit of spicy Disney magic one.
Misha 1:02:56
Okay, so one little one bonus point for like, almost fairly attempt in. All
Tyler 1:03:02
right, I'm fine with them. Yeah. Okay, so Brother Bear. What is your total score? Drumroll.
Misha 1:03:11
This boring movie gets a total of only 29 points out of 110. Okay.
Tyler 1:03:19
Yeah, so this movie is now third worst. No, still sitting in the bottom. Is it this Carol? Oh, yeah. Third worse was Carol and then bolt, which at 25 out of 110. And then Brother Bear 29. And
Misha 1:03:33
it's a shame because they could have done this correctly. And it could have been really good. Yeah.
Tyler 1:03:38
And that's what really pissed me off. Like, they spent so much time with like stupid, Goofy characters that weren't funny. And they could have done something. It doesn't need to be like a serious movie. It could still be like a kid's movie, but like, show some like, the thing is like, the theme of this movie is, you know, respect nature. And don't be a dick. And that that is clear, obviously. But like they could have just stuck that landing much better, I think. Yeah. Despite the fact that we don't go out there kids and try to be Timothy Treadwell and be friends with grizzly bears. Believe them alone. They don't need you.
Misha 1:04:16
Right. Yeah, them for being bears. They're bears. They're gonna be bears and we can't change them.
Tyler 1:04:24
And just on a strange possibility that maybe someone in the anti bear agenda that Disney thinks is going on is listening. Why Fuck you. Fuck you and why? Why? What's with the bear hate? There are plenty of animals that are like weird that you could
1:04:39
eat more, or humans or humans. Yeah. Well,
Tyler 1:04:43
I was thinking what was I thinking of like? Mosquitoes ticks? I fucking hate text. We talked about this. Yeah, with that tech folks. It's been it's been a journey. This was
Misha 1:04:55
not worth it. Don't waste your time with Brother there.
Tyler 1:05:01
But we do appreciate you listening to us kind of descend into madness while we talk about these movies and we really appreciate you listening. And if you want to leave us a review or subscribe if you haven't already, that'd be really great. We'd love to read what you think you could also email us at [email protected] or
Misha 1:05:24
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Tyler 1:05:29
there. Yeah, so until next time, when we dive into cars, the car is
Misha 1:05:36
trilogy. Oh, next is cars. 123. So so all the cars
Tyler 1:05:42
my brilliant wife ostler recommend or she suggested I should float this by you that we trunk like we do. The car is trilogy in one episode, but I feel like that's a lot to talk about in one episode. And I feel like that's I mean, it's a very smart thing because she's she's being She's being very nice and considerate and thinking about our sanity. But I think I think we it's a little bit of cheating. We have to do it. We have to do one episode for each of those movies. I
Misha 1:06:12
think we should suffer for our fans. Yeah, we have to
Tyler 1:06:15
suffer from suffer for the fans. This is art. Well Until next time, we'll see you next time. Love you all. Thanks for listening. Bye,
1:06:25
I.
Tyler 1:06:45
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