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Tyler 00:00
content warning. Although this is a podcast about kids movies this podcast isn't for kids and may contain content some people find offensive
Misha 00:25
Welcome to Much Abu About Nothing. A podcast where Tyler and I, who are two friends, talk about and rate animated Disney films going in alphabetical order a through z if you don't know what that is watch vampire's kiss.
Tyler 00:42
Nice.
Misha 00:45
Using a rigorous scoring system based on absolutely nothing. I'm one of your hosts Misha,
Tyler 00:54
and I'm another one of your hosts Tyler. And the two of us just the two of us, but we say it in a weird way. Because we do and welcome everybody to Episode 10 Wow, we Caloocan Leigh Rubin Kincaid. Episode 10 coming at you with a bang or should I say oh,
Misha 01:19
bald. I do have to say I got very confused when I was looking at this and I was like I thought this was like a classic animated movie and then I realized I was looking for Balto. Not a Disney movie and I was very disappointed. Yeah,
Tyler 01:38
Balto is. Who made Balto was that. That wasn't DreamWorks. That was before DreamWorks. Before
Misha 01:45
DreamWorks. It's probably one of our friend. What's his name? No, I don't doubt constantly.
Tyler 01:53
I don't think it's Don Bluth. If that's where you're referring to?
Misha 01:55
It is Don Bluth that I was talking about a bulldozer real dog. Yeah, bolts.
Tyler 02:00
It's based on a real dog. Yeah.
Misha 02:02
Oh my god. I wish we were watching that instead of talking about bolt.
Tyler 02:07
Balto was the according to Wikipedia third and final animated feature produced by Steven Spielberg's am Blum mation like Amblin entertainment. Amblin
Misha 02:17
and Don Bluth was part of that.
Tyler 02:21
No,
Misha 02:22
Don Bluth had been Spielberg and and Steven Spielberg and Don Bluth got together. For Amblin Hmm, now I'm getting mixed up,
Tyler 02:31
did they because Yeah, they did. Okay, so yeah, Animation There was formed by Spielberg Following the success of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, rabbit. And after he asked Roger, Robert, and after he parted ways with Don Bluth due to creative differences. So this also came out after the Yeah. But it seems like American tale five goes west maybe was
Misha 02:55
typed in. I did a Google search for Roger, Robert. And it was like, Ah, I'm including results for Roger Rabbit. Poor Roger, Roger, Roger,
Tyler 03:10
Robert. Not about it. Very small aside, and it's maybe not even that funny. But I find it really funny. There's this chain of coffee shops. I don't know where they're from. But in Turkey, there's like Roberts coffee. And my mother in law always calls them Rogers. And for some reason, I just find that really, really funny or I don't think she always did, but she said it like once and it stuck. Anyway, we are not here to talk about Roger Robert or Balto. We're Roger. Roger, the Dread Pirate Roberts. Although we do have a love in this podcast for Kerry Ellis as we discussed in episode two, but this is about Bolt 2008 Bolt which according to some is the beginning of the Disney revival. But we'll get into what we think about it here. Yeah, so we have our different categories that we rate these movies giving them scores of one through 10 in the categories originality, story, animation, music and sound protagonist sidekick villain henchmen strong female lead bipoc representation slash portrayal and fun factor and then we have as always doesn't sit right negative points and effervescence bonus points giving a total score out of 110. So let's get into it. I guess as always drum roll. Where's let's let's do the summary Mitch.
Misha 04:35
All right,
Tyler 04:35
what happens in bolt?
Misha 04:37
So I almost said Balto bolt is not about a scientist who makes a super dog. Which it totally got me it got you. It got me.
Tyler 04:55
Okay interesting because I saw like anything about this go It sounds like a quick summary that
Misha 05:01
gave give it away, right? So I did not because I was I, like I said, didn't know this movie existed that it was something else. So I went into it like totally cold. So I was like, okay, so I start writing notes about this fucking movie that isn't the movie about this scientist who gets kidnapped this best dog that has super powers, then that's not what it is. It's a Truman Show. So the dog thinks it's real life, but it's just a TV show. Where, you know, you see how they produce it. And it's just this very stressed out sad dog that thinks his girl like his human is in trouble all the time. Yeah. So they put him through so much emotional trauma, to just make a TV show. And this little girl sees that he's sad. Her adult mother sees that this dog is sad. And he doesn't get to go home with her. He's stuck in a trailer. Like for his whole life, just a one room trailer and doesn't get to live a normal doggy life. And is just stressed out all the time. He's probably going to die at a young age from stress. Yeah, okay. Now, then. They get he gets out and goes on this adventure somehow, like gets accidentally gets put in a shipping container gets shipped to New York City from LA from Hollywood, and then it's homeward bound. And then it gets very traumatic if you felt you weren't traumatized enough. You have to watch a very long scene of the studio burning down. And this little girl who probably I can't believe she didn't die because most people die in fires from smoke inhalation not fire itself. So you're watching her die, and then bolt comes to rescue her. Guess what? He's gonna die too. So you're watching them actually start to die. But then they get rescued at the end. They're both gonna get cancer lung cancer, for sure. But happily ever after? Because they quit doing the TV show once the damage is done and go home to the south. The end? Yeah, the fucking movie.
Tyler 07:27
That's pretty good for a summary. If I can add a one, one small thing. We'll get it actually we'll get into characters but there are a couple of characters that that come with him on his side. Yeah,
Misha 07:39
side. Couple side kicks, which, you know, not very good.
Tyler 07:43
We'll get into that. Yeah. So let's start out because you mentioned it with originality part Truman Show part incredible journey slash Homeward Bound parts. And this one I also bothered me a little I don't know why bother me but the girl's name is Penny. And she's a crime fighter with a dog. It was gadget.
Misha 08:07
Yeah. And her dad in the show is center.
Tyler 08:13
Yeah. And he's a dumb dumb one. Yeah, although wait in Inspector Gadget. Penny was his niece, right? Oh, yeah. It says yes. But still same thing. Same day, right.
Misha 08:22
Oh, the evil character in the TV show not in the real not real life. What however we describe that has is
Tyler 08:32
oh cat themed. Dr. Claw kind of? Yeah, yeah,
Misha 08:35
they Doctor Calico or Calico? Right. It's the fucking same. Yeah, anyway, this fucking movie.
Tyler 08:43
Yeah, I didn't find it very. It's weird. It's almost like they took like, I mean, as Bob Dylan. I think. This is pastiche. Yeah. The proper use of the word now. Oh, my God. Oh, that's called back to Episode One. They're gonna go Yeah. But what I was gonna say I think it's attributed to Bob Dylan. But that also might be wrong. But like, if there's an original idea there, I could use it. They what they seem to have done here is like, take Disney ideas and put them into like a random generator on the internet. And then this movie gets spit out Pinterest
Misha 09:13
of food where it's like taco pizza cupcake pie. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Somebody make that and make that yo is on social. Yeah.
Tyler 09:22
And call it the bolt. I'm also Balto, too. So, yeah, it's not original. I mean, it's not like a one because it's not like Christmas Carol, but it's like it's didn't feel very
Misha 09:39
original. Yeah.
Tyler 09:39
I mean, it's, I would say it's less original than Atlantis The Lost Empire, which like was the old story of Atlantis but told told from a different, like way, right. So, yeah, I mean, maybe a four. Yeah, sometimes like a four. I mean, yeah, it's like There's not much to dwell on. It's like it's Yeah. We'll get the story but like the originality part of the story is not that great. It just Yeah. All right. And it was originally going to be called American Dog, which would have been.
Misha 10:16
What? Yeah.
Tyler 10:19
Dog, a white American dog named Henry. Yeah.
Misha 10:22
Oh my god. Oh, Henry is
Tyler 10:24
not a bad name for dog carrier. Well, okay, well, it's
Misha 10:27
a good name for us PS.
Tyler 10:29
Good name for dogs too.
Misha 10:30
But yeah, well, okay. Anyway, he's been out on
Tyler 10:35
despite the fact that post postal workers and dogs alike have a classic hatred of each other at least as far as pop culture is concerned. Right,
Misha 10:42
right. Well, my former mail carrier Alice had German Shepherds and she loved Simon, my dog. So Simon is a good dog. Grew dog. I
Tyler 10:54
said good. Did I say good? Yeah. I think I was trying to say great and good at the same time. He's a good dog Balto? off the rails? Okay,
Misha 11:09
can we move on? Yeah, let's
Tyler 11:11
move on to story. Now. The thing is like, I mean, you can't hate this stuff. You kind of you kind of touched on it. Like it's a bunch of like, needless trauma to dogs and
Misha 11:26
cats. Why is this movie so mean to cats?
Tyler 11:30
And like the first like the beginning where he's in where they're showing like the the TV show, which apparently is filmed like in one take, like every single fucking day, so they don't so they can keep clicking this poor dog eases
Misha 11:44
and they're they can't say cut. Yeah, just like, it's Yeah, so it's like The Truman Show where it's like, Truman in that is the dog in this. They don't know that. It's a TV show. Everybody else knows it's a TV show. So they have to do everything in one cut. But what's crazy about this, it's not just like, due to like walking the dog or you know, like feeding the dog. It's like they're doing these crazy stunts that require cars to crash and motorcycles and explosions and the road to collapse and bridges being bombed or whatever. It's like, okay, and like how many
Tyler 12:28
people fucking die during the making of this TV show? Because like, they don't care helicopters crashed and I didn't see people get out like emergency style. They both does his like magic roar thing that in the TV show and like flattens a bunch of people and they show them getting up but like, one wrong ones. One like trick mistake. A little mistake in your heads. Everyone's cracked open. It is fucking knocked open like a coconut plug this, it is absurd that they made us think that that was going to be possible. Like it's just fucking insane.
Misha 13:02
And then he thinks it's real. He thinks he has superpowers and tries to break out break through buildings break out of cages. And he's just concussive himself. So if he doesn't die from that smoke inhalation, he's certainly got CTE and is gonna
Tyler 13:23
Yeah, yeah, go bomb out some trouble. Yeah. And it's just like, the cats even fucking know, like everybody knows except for bolts. And he never overheard like, everyone was so careful to trick this port dog dog that they were like never.
Misha 13:39
And so in this human world do they know that? Dogs can understand English and can read?
Tyler 13:49
Clearly not. So.
Misha 13:51
Wait, but so why didn't he hear any of
Tyler 13:57
this? Yeah, exactly. Like because how the fuck does the cats know? Yeah. Also, when
Misha 14:01
you're making a TV show, like he just never had company while they were not filming. He just alone locked in this trailer all the time. Like this girl would go to birthday party. She'd practice her lines she'd have to practice and like you know, what do you call it where you like on in TV? You know run through lines or whatever you
Tyler 14:25
do like runs there is like work on fuck like for a show like this? You have to work on like blocking. Like, where are you fucking standing so you don't get a goddamn helicopter in your eyeball? Right? Like, what they do what they do. And then how do we all figure out that like this is a show there's a boom mic in the shot a boom mic as a person at the end of it. Like how did the dog
Misha 14:44
see? Yeah. As soon as they showed that. So
Tyler 14:49
what that means is it's not just that they're all very well hidden and this is like Candid Camera writ large. This is like they have done psychological damage to make sure that he he doesn't see that boom mic guy as reality. This is like, Yeah, really? I
Misha 15:07
have a question for you the beginning of the movie when they're just showing the TV show. And she goes, she goes on. It really does. That's why I was like, oh, okay, this is the movie because it's going on for so long. It says a little girl. So it starts with her. She's small, the same. We're presuming it's the same actress who goes to the shelter and adopts the dog.
Tyler 15:37
I think we can make that assumption because like they have a they have a genuine love for each other. So I think that's fine. But that's
Misha 15:44
actually real life or is that being filmed on the TV? Well,
Tyler 15:47
good question. I don't know because she immediately puts a bolt name tag or dog
Misha 15:53
walked in with Bob with I saw that with the collar that said bolt and put it on him. So was this whole thing they were like, Okay, we're gonna get an eight year old girl or a six year old. I don't know. We're gonna hire her as an actress. We're gonna have her go adopt a dog from the shelter. We already know the dog's name is going to be bald. And then in five years, we're going to say we're going to film this and then in five years we're going to make a TV show with the same child.
Tyler 16:25
I wouldn't put it past him this is a fucked up world that these characters are so
Misha 16:29
What's that movie that came out where they actually filmed a child growing up boyhood Yes, this is boyhood but bolt hood This is
Tyler 16:39
a Linklater joint Yeah, I think also we need to talk about the fact yet that this is like very bad for for Penny the girl as well like her mom is like has zero authority this agent
Misha 16:53
asleep oblivious Yeah. What's happening? Like daughter is sad about this dog being abused.
Tyler 17:02
So they send this young girl in she imprints on this dog and it's the right type of dog because they somebody by the way like we noticed like the bull the white Shepherd is like alone all the other dogs are being distracted by something or someone yeah it's almost like there's some production assistant like making sure all those little cute little st Bernard's whatever the fuck they weren't go away. So bull is right in line for penny to find. Some would call it Kismet. I call it conspiracy. Yeah, this is messed up. So. Okay, so the story devolves? Well, you could say maybe not divorced from that because I think the beginning is like the worst, but then it's just like, it's just out and it's just him going home. And it's like badly paced. It's not very interesting. Like mittens, the side kicks Alleycat that goes with them is not a bad character. We'll get into that later. She could be much better but she Yeah, she was okay. And then there's this hamster in a wheel fucking
Misha 18:07
hamster.
Tyler 18:08
We'll get to this and side kicks. Miller of the TJ Miller of hamsters
Misha 18:14
of the animals. Oh my god.
Tyler 18:16
It was like if Josh Gad and TJ Miller had a baby and then only fitted PCP that's like fucking horrible that little what's the name? Rhino was his name right now.
Misha 18:28
Yeah. Such an awful addition.
Tyler 18:32
Just that I can see. Like as a kid. I probably would have enjoyed that guy though.
Misha 18:37
I don't think so.
Tyler 18:38
I don't I mean, I think I might have why. But yeah, we'll get to them a little
Misha 18:45
bit later. But yeah, that's the story was and they just get home and so it ends with he goes to the studio and they've replaced bolt with another bolt, which
Tyler 18:54
was admittance had been warning him about don't get too attached to these. Yeah,
Misha 18:58
he's he doesn't, you know, people don't care, whatever. And we find that so he thinks, oh, Penny, not pennies bolt. I did. By the way. I was very proud of that joke. You know, last, but not Penny's fault. It
Tyler 19:15
flew over my head the first time around. So
Misha 19:20
yeah, and he thinks that she just like whatever I found another dog to love. That's it. Also Wait, okay, I want to back up a little bit. There were billboards, all over everywhere, everywhere. ads on buses, ads on buildings, ads all over the TV, this and that. And bolt is in New York City. You fucking telling me that this white dog with a lightning bolt on its side. No one's going to be like, Hey, there's this last dog. In the hall. They traveled across the entire United States when they got captured. By the animal rescue or animal control Yeah, you're a fucking caller on.
Tyler 20:07
Yep. With an address on it. There's a fucking address on it. Yeah, they just nobody's thinking,
Misha 20:11
hey, this is this famous TV dog. I'm sure they're wondering why this fucking dog is not in Hollywood in its sad little trailer by itself. No just okay bye dog have fun. The people are poor
Tyler 20:27
I mean people are just the people are idiots in this
Misha 20:32
they also leave the studio unlocked for dogs to just come and go as they please.
Tyler 20:36
Yeah, well I actually I appreciate that you
Misha 20:40
got out to an office right and welcome in a box. Sure. But
Tyler 20:44
then okay, back yeah, that he tries to. He tries to follow Penny because he thinks she's being kidnapped and that's how he escaped from the production. But he falls into this box filled with packing peanuts and get shipped in New York. Motherfucker would have died on that
Misha 21:00
trip. Like 100% or just on trip. Yeah. Also knowing dogs
Tyler 21:05
he would have eaten those packing peanuts and then died of packing peanuts in his Yeah, like to probably because dogs are not always though.
Misha 21:13
That's a long trip. That's three days.
Tyler 21:17
If it goes if it goes straight to unless it's air we go straight to the truck. It was on a truck. Yeah, but I think it was on a truck. It might have been going to the airport. But yeah, they did put it on a truck. Yeah. What the fuck? It sounds like the wobble Global Freight or something which made me think that he flew to New York. Okay, but even then driving to the airport. six hour flight. What is it six or seven hours?
Misha 21:41
Yeah.
Tyler 21:42
I don't remember anymore.
Misha 21:44
I mean, how long does it does this shit sit the airport. There's that to sit around?
Tyler 21:49
They're gonna toss it around play play. Why isn't he covered in his own filth? Yeah, or just dead from asphyxiation? I mean, I don't want to think about oh,
Misha 21:58
by the way, this is a real thing. You're right dead from freezing to death. Because if you are on a plane and on in the cargo hold, it's not warmed. You actually freeze to death that it happened on America. I think American Airlines killed the son of the world's largest bunny. Because they forgot to properly store it in a place that was warm enough for animals people have snuck onto planes like to escape you know, which is really sad but and frozen have frozen to death. So they would have just opened that what empty box of packing peanuts because there was nothing else in the box. But packing. They're just shipping packing peanuts.
Tyler 22:44
They should have I mean, it would have been a very different movie, but they should have shown that like the box arriving at some kid's house. Ah, my PlayStation fours here. Oh my god, there's a frozen duck. That would have been McCobb but perhaps more interesting. And then the rest of the movie is like, Where'd the dog go? Well, we got a new one. And then it's like a really fucked up version of German show. Because then the second dog doesn't know he's in a show either.
Misha 23:10
Yeah,
Tyler 23:11
this is getting David Lynch. Okay,
Misha 23:13
forget Oh my god.
Tyler 23:15
So the story is not good. The story's pretty not great.
Misha 23:21
Oh my god.
Tyler 23:23
The story's pretty not good.
Misha 23:24
Then the fucking fire scene. I'm just like, we're watching them pass out in a burning building. Yeah,
Tyler 23:33
that was pretty like if for little kids that would have been pretty terrifying. I think probably and it kind of comes out of nowhere without dark it is so yeah, yes. The because the kids aren't probably going to pick up on like the trauma in the whole thing possibly. I don't know kids are smarter than we give them credit for but the traumatic psychological damage being done to bolt is probably gonna go over their heads. But that entire scene with that fire scene is scary for a long time a long time.
Misha 24:05
I was like, Oh, we're just going to sort of see them trying to get out and then like, Nope, you actually see them start to pass out Yeah,
Tyler 24:13
I did like how when he finally when he finally like gets to Penny and tries to help he does like you know do that magic bark through the ventilation I kind of liked that. It was cheesy but I did kind of like it
Misha 24:26
like he fat realize this power is like you can just be a helpful good dog without good good boy. You know what all dogs are good boys or girls. Yeah, but like this fuck. We should watch out if they're voiced by John Travolta. Yeah,
Tyler 24:45
we should. Well we'll get to that because we may have differing opinions on that strangely, but for Yeah, we should watch all dogs go to heaven for like a Patreon bonus at some point. If we do do the Yeah. Hmm, thing. Okay, so what did we think of her story score?
Misha 25:03
Awful. I mean,
Tyler 25:05
I mean,
Misha 25:06
I hated it.
Tyler 25:07
I think this is maybe the worst story so far. I
Misha 25:11
think it's the worst story so far. Just fucking traumatic,
Tyler 25:15
I think but I want to hold off from giving one. Yeah,
Misha 25:19
I think I shouted at the end of this when we were to edit. I shouted, this movie makes me regret doing this podcast.
Tyler 25:30
Now see, I shouted, I shouted that to myself. After watching A Christmas Carol. I was like, we've made a huge mistake, because they're like hundreds more movies.
Misha 25:40
I was just nauseous at the you
Tyler 25:44
know what? I don't know. bad movies make this thing fun, too. Of course. I don't know. Am I thinking I'm thinking like, too. Yeah, I was thinking to give it a deuce. Yeah. All right. Now moving on to animation. Now, I think the animation is one of the stronger parts of this movie. Yeah, I
Misha 26:05
thought it was I thought it was fine. Especially if
Tyler 26:08
we think like, well, it's 2008 You know, and with what computer graphics could do. The next year is when they made a Christmas carol Different. Different very different style, different style different studio, but still, like, very, like this movie is just so much better looking.
Misha 26:25
I will say since you mentioned a Christmas carol A Christmas Carol. The animation got a really low score, not because it was always bad like technically but because it was gross as fuck, right? Yeah, so right. So like, I don't that's like this is that's a bad comparison. Right? Because it's a good point. Whenever you see people's warts, we don't I'm gonna throw up tie you thinking about
Tyler 26:52
vault. I definitely have PTSD from them. But bolt it's like his his for like debt. Yeah, one of the problems you had was like, this was 98. This was 10 years earlier. But one problem with the Bug's Life you had was the feathers of the bird. Right? Well, it looks great. The nature looks good. And I think people were okay. I always with I have problems with the people like all these like high animated people.
Misha 27:15
I always have a problem with, like, Toy Story where it's like Toy Story. It's horrible thinking. Yeah, that's my point. Like, the toys are so good. And then the people are terrible. And they kept them that way, even as they were making new ones like a lot of these CGI people. Humans are always Yeah,
Tyler 27:34
yeah, it's this the choice they made, like the style of people like, you know, because we talked about this with Atlantis for that movie. They decided to go like edgier more like their, their, their competitors were doing. And then they've sort of shifted back into like, cartoony Pixar looking people. And they don't look good. And then we finally get like later in 2000s, like with frozen and tangled and Mallanna. And those ones like, like little different
Misha 28:01
style. Yeah, it's like, like, CGI to look like animation. Yes, exactly.
Tyler 28:07
Yeah, right. Yeah. Which they haven't done yet here. But I think the whole movie did, they did what was called, I might be getting this wrong. So someone can shout at us in email or whatever. Just not all non photorealistic rendering. So they making like CGI kind of look like traditional animation, right? Because it definitely had that feel to parts of especially the landscapes and stuff like that kind of looked more brushy rather than just like Chris I thought was great. And like especially the action the actions like the train sequence when they were on the train was good all the I know. We have our opinions about Rhino the hamster but all the ball movement looks really cool. Like yeah, dude, like they really pulled that up. Yeah, I think the animation is like really strong. I think like, you know, maybe even like at the level of Big Hero Six, maybe a little bit lower. Okay. Yeah. Well, I don't know it's better than Aladdin's animation. I think in Aladdin gotta six. Aladdin had a lot of problems. So I wasn't had a lot of like, good classic seven. Yeah, let's give it a seven. Okay. Yeah, and Aladdin is beautiful. Again, don't get us wrong, but like the the issues we had with it. I mean, like, that's the nature of the episode. You'll hear us don't listen to that episode. Yeah, we don't need to rehash music and sound. Oh, God. Now, let's start with the elephants in the room. The two like, songs with words. Yeah,
Misha 29:45
home. Going home. Number one is one.
Tyler 29:51
One of them is called. Oh fuck. I have to look it up again. One of them is barking at the moon. That's the one in the middle during the month. montage
Misha 30:00
that was so shocking when it started
Tyler 30:03
yeah the Montage by the way because you know we all know that you love a good montage the montage was fine I thought but that song was a bit jarring The song was fine okay I don't
Misha 30:13
always love a good sometimes I like a good montage if appropriate yeah this whole fucking movie should have just been a montage that's true. And then not and then they would have been like, you know, scrap
Tyler 30:25
it would have been less dramatic. Now. Yeah, so the mid song the montage song barking at the moon was done by Jenny Lewis of Rylo Kylie fame. I thought it was fine. It was it was a little bit jarring to like hear a word song over there called with words, but but it was like it not offensive. The final song however. I thought I lost you a duet between a 16 year old Miley Cyrus and a much older John Travolta in a weird like it's supposed to be between bolt and Penny but people would you know people were confused about like, why fireball was going on to this song apparently i don't
Misha 31:10
i Okay, I also didn't know that John Travolta is saying yes. Is that like, common knowledge?
Tyler 31:20
Well, Greece for example
Misha 31:26
really singing that did yeah,
Tyler 31:27
thanks. So what they did with those musicals and stuff they don't do I don't do it live they do it in totally
Misha 31:33
forgot. Okay, I know. That's John Travolta. But like, back then John Travolta and contemporary, John Travolta post, it's like, instead of posting them it's like post faceoff preface off. Okay. Yep. They feel like two very different people. I don't know I'm just like really upset that there would be this cuz somewhat contemporary kids movie with John Travolta in it, and I find that offensive that
Tyler 32:10
okay, like, well, we're not. Okay. Yeah, let's see, I guess let's get into it. Because we're, I mean, it's part of the protagonist score, I think too, but we can talk about the voice acting that was upset
Misha 32:19
listening to that song. I laughed a lot. I wasn't upset, but I was just like, oh my god, this song. And Miley Cyrus. I don't know. I probably will get we may might get hate mail for this. I was really bothered by that song. I laughed a lot at how stupid it sounded.
Tyler 32:43
Now here's, here's my thing. I didn't hate it as much as you did.
Misha 32:53
So I guess my point is, it's hard for me because they both have very distinct voices. Yeah. It's hard for me to not picture them while listening to it and that laugh then you have to fucking send me the video of
Tyler 33:09
right before we started recording this I sent the the video clip like a music video which shows them in studio singing together and it makes it that made it much harder
Misha 33:20
to swallow. So he looked like it that with the goatee he looked like nowadays Steven Seagal goes away it's got the goatee. Yeah. Which is fun to think about.
Tyler 33:32
It is fun to think about especially because Steven Seagal is a respected actor and a reincarnated Tibetan lama.
Misha 33:37
I need to do a side by side. I'm from social media. So
Tyler 33:43
when I heard it, I was like, Okay, this song is just really inoffensive to the point of being offensive but it I mean, I didn't hate it, but it's just like the it's just so bland. I would have rather had like the Randy Newman song at the end of A Bug's Life which was which I makes my skin crawl to be honest. Apologies Randy Newman. But Jim, I think Miley Cyrus has a great voice. I don't really like her music, but I think she's like a phenomenal singer. But yeah, her voice mixed with and I think John Travolta sings fine. He's fine. I think it's just the idea of him singing and then when you saw it when you see the video of him like, that's
Misha 34:22
what it was like looking at her separate that idea of John Travolta. Saint like, I thought it sounded fine. I did. I think I was surprised. He's a good singer. There was like some notes where I was like, he's not going to hold it. Oh, he's Yeah,
Tyler 34:37
he did. All right. Yeah. Yeah. It might have had some post production on there. But yeah, you did find you know, it's
Misha 34:45
very jarring like out of nowhere the two songs with words in it were just like, Whoa, this is yeah, like this type of movie all of a sudden, but it wasn't it was just
Tyler 34:55
middle and end. For me. I think the the pre and post triple two phases for me. I mean, the face off one is really good, but for me it's like pre Adele. Dezign and post Adele Desi. So whenever I hear his voice all I can see is him like, holding a demon zils face in a creepy way on stage and or like him like trying to read and sing Adele Dazeem that's what I see. So it's always funny. You should watch this movie from Paris with love. By the way, He is hilarious in a very ridiculous, not a great movie, but he's hilarious in a like, unintentional way. But here's my thing about John Travolta and because let's get into it now because you brought it up. I think he's great in this. I think he has this thing where he's like, here we give music and sound. We didn't but I just want to get him to we'll come back to the music.
Misha 35:44
We'll go. Well, alright. Yeah,
Tyler 35:46
let's give music and sound. Yeah, let's give it a score. That's fine. Other Other than that, it was fine. It's like we talked about this like Big Hero Six. It does its job but it didn't like wow, me.
Misha 35:59
I actually didn't like the songs. The two main songs of it. It just You
Tyler 36:06
mean the ones with the word songs? Words? Yeah, I didn't like the word songs either. I'm talking about.
Misha 36:10
I know, but it should lose points, I think. Yeah. Yeah. So like, if we're comparing it to Big Hero Six, it's just like, like,
Tyler 36:18
it'd be low background.
Misha 36:19
Yeah, it's so that was my
Tyler 36:21
Yeah, I agree. So five
Misha 36:25
Yeah, I think five Yeah, they weren't horrible.
Tyler 36:29
So I think the score was okay. Like the tension in the spy part of it. And then like the, the music for like, all this suspenseful music was was pretty spot on. I thought there was one like, weird thing with the score when the when the director was like, making his big speech about how we can't let the dog know or whatever. The music was off in that spot. I thought it was to like, symphonic and orchestral and like it was building up to the to not well, I've what I felt nothing but other than that, okay. Now, protagonist, John Travolta. I mean, when he's when he commits, he fully commits, like, face off or a good I'm so good in this.
Misha 37:09
I thought what Yeah, I agree.
Tyler 37:11
Once you get over the fact that it's his voice. He is earnest. He is like 110% you get
Misha 37:17
oh, and I got like, I know I have my feelings about John Travolta, but I got over really quickly. And I thoroughly enjoyed this. Yeah. And watch it. Yeah, I liked and I think bolt is a great
Tyler 37:33
bolt is great. I thought it was a good protagonist. He's like, really lovable and he's going through Fucking hell. Yes. Going through
Misha 37:44
hell. And he like, honestly, we'll get into who the villain is but like,
Tyler 37:50
oh, it's man again, like in Bambi it's man.
Misha 37:55
A little more specific. Because I have my ID.
Tyler 37:58
Yeah, we'll get into that. Yeah, but um, yeah,
Misha 38:02
I mean, he's, listen, I'm Team Cat. Because one cat baby. Cats are the best. Oh, speaking
Tyler 38:10
of which one pause really quick. Pause doggy pause that was good. Because we forgot I forgot to mention this story, but they've really fuckin do cats dirty in this like cat. Yeah, I
Misha 38:23
said that. Why do you fucking hate cat so much? Yeah. Okay,
Tyler 38:26
sorry. Back to what you're saying.
Misha 38:27
I did say that. I think I did. I think I said it at some point. They they're so fucking mean to cat. So this movie. Ah, anyway. What was I saying? Team Cat Cat watching. And we're Team Cat. Because I have cats. And she I'm sorry. She's absolutely what's her name? Who's that? Mittens. Mittens? Mittens is absolutely correct. That he should not go back to any single one of them. I don't fucking care that Penny is a little girl out fucking care that she is sad that she misses her dog because you know what? They all treated him like shit. Mittens has your back even though there was a little bit of like, you know, funny. Okay, nevermind. This is buting the beast all over again with Stockholm Syndrome. But anyway, like, Jesus Christ. So you know what? Just go be a free dog. Find out what your cute dog who was owned and who was famous. Wash off that bolt. Take off that collar. Somebody will adopt you because you're probably really you're a good boy. Find another family that will fucking torture you. Yeah, go to the shelter. I know it's gonna be sad and difficult and like everyone adopt, don't buy or purchase animals just go to a local rescue and save the animals.
39:59
So Speaking of which,
Misha 40:02
don't go fucking back to Penny. Yeah,
Tyler 40:05
um, duck. The one like silver lining is I'm glad that like, in the end we see mittens and like the the trios like still together because like in real life in real life it would been like oh, bolts back. Oh, I we don't want this gross cat. Like this Cat's got fleas
Misha 40:20
and that yeah, like I've been through this already. So it's good that they did go to your local rescue and see which cat and which animals have been here the longest and really need a home and then take them in.
Tyler 40:32
Speaking of which I was gonna say, I was really upset when when bolts and Rhino rescue mittens that they didn't like open the cages, the cages I know. But then again that like, then there'll be like in the wild and like Turkey, where I live has a bunch of feral dogs at like just roaming that don't have homes and families and part of me is like, that's better. But part of me is like, It's not better. It's not better. And they're like scrounging for food and, and like I wouldn't say
Misha 41:02
some of those are really scrounging for food. No,
Tyler 41:04
the ones that live around me. Very well fed. And there's some chunky boys and girls that basically was like beer barrels because they kebabs and bread all day, but
Misha 41:18
it is bad for dogs. So
Tyler 41:19
this is bad for dogs.
Misha 41:20
So you know, give, give those good little boys and girls some yeasted bread and moderation. So
Tyler 41:27
protagonist score, I think I think he should get Yeah, like he should get a high score. I think like yeah, I seven. I think he's as likable of a protagonist as like Bell. Yeah, she
Misha 41:40
got a seven. Yep. Ah, really. As good as Bell,
Tyler 41:48
I think bolt is such a good boy. And Belle, you had problems with value. You had problems with her? Like, No,
Misha 41:54
I didn't have problems with her. I had problems. You
Tyler 41:57
did have problems with her. As far as I remember. You had problems with her, like accepting the situation in the end and also her, like, attitude towards the village. I feel like I can't remember now. It was not that long ago, but I don't know. But
Misha 42:11
everybody you know if you've been through a traumatic experience, go to therapy.
Tyler 42:16
Yeah, but I don't know. I mean, I think all right. Bolt is a bolt is like a more like likable protagonist than Aladdin. And he goes through like, yeah, dramatic change and he grows from it and like, adapts. And all right, all right. He's resilient. He's brave. He's super cute. Yeah. Seven gets a seven side kicks. Right now the hamster, Rhino the hamster and mittens. Rhino
Misha 42:44
gets negative points. mitten is just okay. Menzo is okay. I
Tyler 42:49
just really wanted mittens to be much more because I super sympathized with like, yeah, it's like that.
Misha 42:56
I felt like her personality and her voice didn't mesh very well.
Tyler 43:02
It was like, who did the voice for her? It was like, I don't know who this person is. But it was like, like any other actor or actress like trying to put on a New York accent and it wasn't quite like it just a generic like, hey, get over you. Like that sort of did
Misha 43:20
like the different pigeons. Like always. You don't like to fit? Yes,
Tyler 43:26
we'll get to that with animation. Oh, we already met we escaped. Okay, I didn't like I didn't like the pigeons because the eyeballs were moving too much. And it was really creeping me out. I look that's pigeons. Like they did the ocular nerve thing where like, they don't have an ocular nerve so that like pigeons move their head to heads. They did that. But then they also had their eyeballs moving and that was really unsettling to me. They had these big wet, gross like, eyeballs that were moving around jingle jangling and I didn't like it.
Misha 43:55
jangle I guess I wasn't talking about the animation of the pigeons. I was just talking can we bring
Tyler 44:01
the animation score down now? Because I know I'm joking.
Misha 44:06
I'm always with the birds. Yeah.
Tyler 44:11
Birds are tough apparently to do.
Misha 44:12
I guess. I'm okay. Um, yeah. So back to mittens and Rhino. I really I liked mittens enough. Yeah. I really
Tyler 44:31
hate it right now is it is really like insufferable. Yeah, Jenks? But mittens is okay. But mittens isn't like strong enough to hold up to conceal the the shitting a ball that his right.
Misha 44:50
Okay, they get it too. I would give mittens I would give Rhino negative score if I could a flat zero but we don't is our scoring system is one so I would give mittens. No, right? Oh one and pull it up to two for mittens.
Tyler 45:05
Yeah, I'm fine with that because mittens was okay but I but really disappointing like with the lack with the lack of character development and yeah, and maybe the strongest part of the movie was the friendship between mittens and bolt and it was just like not really there it was like developed
Misha 45:21
off Yeah, right. They should have had that come across. Much stronger. Yeah,
Tyler 45:27
agreed. Okay, so villain you were you're bringing this up a little bit. You think pennies on Okay interesting. I can hear the calls are coming in now. Honey, her
Misha 45:42
mom and the and the agent are fucking team of villains who manipulate and abuse
Tyler 45:48
bolt Penny is complicit. Yeah, she is
Misha 45:52
and I get that she's a child. But she can she feels the sadness she can see that he's sad. I don't know if throw fucking tantrum you're the one who's employed okay, maybe I'm too putting too much pressure on children to like
Tyler 46:09
grow Yeah. I want to be a little bit sympathetic to Penny because her family like I'm thinking of like child actors out there
Misha 46:16
that we do in their moms that have been isn't there like Dance Moms I'm imagining
Tyler 46:20
this mom was like, not powerful at all. She's like it was
Misha 46:25
Penny who was it? Who was that age for this career now? It's not just an agent that's like pushing the mom should have then been mom
Tyler 46:33
should have done something earlier than she did karate kick the agent in the end but like Yeah, after
Misha 46:37
her daughter died yeah.
Tyler 46:43
Yeah, I would say you're probably right because like Dr. Calico is a movie villain or TV film.
Misha 46:48
real villain stream to the right are those three
Tyler 46:52
they shelled out the big bucks to get Malcolm McDowell to devote the voice that guy to and he was barely in it? Yeah. Another shout out to like a random voice. James Lipton was in it. He was the director James Lipton from inside the actors. Oh, yes. Yeah. And Randy Savage. Apparently, according to Wikipedia was one of the voices and Diedrich Bader from Veep. And the Harley Quinn Show
Misha 47:15
with James Lipton. You didn't say from Arrested Development?
Tyler 47:19
Oh, I should have Yeah, yeah. Shane Warden Warden gentles, was that his name? Yeah. This was his last movie, apparently. Well, he didn't really do movies. But anyway, and Diedrich Bader, love that guy. Shout out to Veep. And the harlequin show that no one's watched, but I think they haven't watched either. It's both shows are amazing. Oh, you would know maybe from The Drew Carey Show. Have you seen that?
Misha 47:42
Anyway? Back in the 90s. Yeah.
Tyler 47:45
I think if you saw his face, you're like, Oh, that guy. He played the veteran cat. The cat that like brings the fat cat along.
Misha 47:53
I know him. Yeah. Speaking
Tyler 47:57
I was just looking at his page.
Misha 47:59
And I would say from The Drew Carey Show.
Tyler 48:03
He did uh, oh, that's another thing another show or idea that was taken for this movie that's not original is Buzz Lightyear anyway. I'm fine with that for villains and as far as anything we did you with what? I'm fine with what you said Penny the
Misha 48:22
score. No, I
Tyler 48:23
was gonna say I'm fine with that. But what are we gonna get the first score? Okay, so with Bambi man is the enemy and it's scary. This is man is gonna be and it's like, not scary. Modern. Right. They're just shitty. So it's just
Misha 48:38
like, Yep, this is like how people treat animals treat each other like so.
Tyler 48:42
Definitely. I wouldn't say it's easy. I wouldn't say it's even as strong as like, like Yeah, guest on are the villain and the villain Atlantis for Christ's sakes was better than this one. But should they get points for the the amount of evil like the banality of the evil that is in the back to them? Yeah. Okay, well, that's unbolt I guess, and
Misha 49:02
the agent is just fucking trying to do his job. They're like, represent us so we can get so we can't like
Tyler 49:09
we have to think of the villains as like iconic villains would like but he's just a sleazeball. Like looking for money and it's not really and
Misha 49:16
they hired him if he was she they should have not used him I don't know I would do it one or two. Because people won't even say like who's the villain there really isn't one I guess the agent if like actually to be like other than me thinking Penny is the villain and her mother for treating bulk badly the agent has like there's like a whole team
Tyler 49:39
of people and he's barely in it. And
Misha 49:42
director yeah and the television network lady like percent right
Tyler 49:50
who's like we're gonna if your ratings go down by half a point where should canning you? But like, I think they should have they should but also like, how they've filmed how many episodes It's like a filament every day. It's like, what kind of world is this? I mean, we get we can't give it a one because we gave Christmas barrel one for like a lack of villain.
Misha 50:09
fine too. So to
Tyler 50:12
henchman I would say the same because the henchmen are all those people in the production team. I would say, if anything, that could be a one, maybe
Misha 50:20
one I would say one.
Tyler 50:23
Strong Female Lead one. Or do we give any points for Mittens? Mittens is like an independent lady. And no, because
Misha 50:29
that she's a sidekick? Yeah. But we gave we already rated her for a sidekick and went from one to two and we included mittens in the site. Yeah.
Tyler 50:38
True. Okay. Yeah. Because when I was looking back to A Bug's Life, but we gave that a for for adda and the Queen not not for dog, because that was just like, okay. All right. bipoc representation, size portrayal.
Misha 50:50
Stay there. All right. Oh, yeah.
Tyler 50:52
And there are a lot of like,
Misha 50:56
in the TV show opening, but they didn't have speaking roles. Yes. Like, oh, let's just paint blacks.
Tyler 51:05
That just reminds me of how stupid that TV shows. There's like a scene where like, bolt makes a car flip over him and then jump cuts to bolt holding the car over a bridge. Like how did they even how did they film that? Like,
Misha 51:17
you just they bite it and there's like invisible strings?
Tyler 51:21
Yeah. And then it's just like, they they fucking Clockwork Orange Bowl to like, just believe this. I just don't want to see that.
Misha 51:29
I'm saying yeah, like trying to the crate at one point, and it's just hitting his head. And I'm like, You gave yourself a concussion? Because they've he keeps doing things to harm himself thinking that he's able to do things Yeah. Really sad. Yeah.
Tyler 51:49
Yeah, it's especially egregious because this is 2008 and a lot of the actors that are in it are like no offense to them, but like not big names. And like we could have got some people of color in here folks. I mean, come on, gang. What are we doing right?
Misha 52:05
Yep.
Tyler 52:07
All right. Thank you one now fun factor it wasn't fun. No, this was if you turn your brain off and just like it's maybe a little bit fun but it's turning
Misha 52:22
around and there's no context no plot nothing
Tyler 52:26
Yeah, the action scenes are fun but yeah, but sad.
Misha 52:29
Yeah Oh movie is just really sad. Yeah, they're like a dog who's abused then gets lost then goes through a hard time to end up in a fire
Tyler 52:41
Yeah, and the fire was not fun The only like the only like bright spot was like the while the animation was bright obviously but like the the some of the action sequences were were cool and fun but I don't think that's lifted. Yeah, like the train thing was fun. It was an exciting like that right? I thought that was a fun part. But but when you when
Misha 53:02
you is an upset thinking about this dog who's going to end up getting
Tyler 53:06
hurt? Yeah, but we're gonna get to that with the next thing. I think but for fun factor. I do not think it should get a high score. Yeah, I was just trying to find some like silver lining but to uh, to I don't think it should get one because like, again, Christmas Carol. But doesn't sit right. I think it should get a bunch of negative points for like, just the
Misha 53:28
trauma, that fire scene. The fire scene is so insane that we have to also Oh, in that fire scene, all the adults left her hanging. She was literally hanging from a harness when the building started to burn down. And not a single adult stopped to help this child out of a fucking fire. Yeah, it's got I mean it's losing a lot of points here because this whole movie is just one trauma after another.
Tyler 54:03
Yeah, I think like in general suffering is good to show in movies to a certain extent. Like a
Misha 54:11
kid's movie like fire scene went on for so long where we saw them pass out from smoke inhalation Yeah,
Tyler 54:19
that I agree with that. I was just saying like, I think it's fine. Like the reason why Homeward Bound works in the original incredible journey too, I guess but I thought that one was really boring. Like what the reason why Homeward Bound works because there is this like want or this desire for the for the reunion like for them to be reunited right want them to be reunited. Like this struggle is real and it feels like weighty and it feels like you feel the pain of the kids waiting for their like hoping that their dogs and cats are fine and the dogs and cats trekking across wherever to get to their. Their people again. I liked how you said she's my person instead of she's my human like some furry Ferringhi by the way, I like that But yeah, this is just like the that part that could be good like the getting to feel more for both Penny and bolt is not really there and then we get, like, gratuitous suffering in the form of the fire scene in the very irresponsible adults. Yeah, I think I think I agree that it should get a bunch of doesn't sit right. Points. What are we thinking here? We gave your opinion the base negative nine. We gave Christmas carol negative 10.
Misha 55:34
As famously because of Stockholm Syndrome.
Tyler 55:38
Yeah. Because the whole plot revolves around creeping, creeping, creeping, creeping around. And I think maybe this should be closer to like for the animal rights people out there. This should you know, bolt bolt is a is close to Bell. Arguably, maybe even
Misha 55:54
Yeah, but even besides like, the animal rights, it's just like, really hard to watch. Yeah, it's just sad. The whole thing negative nine. All right. You said it.
Tyler 56:10
effervescence, stinker 00. Yeah.
Misha 56:15
Okay, so grand total. Oh, wow.
56:21
Okay. movie
Misha 56:22
did not do well. I actually thought for a while I thought it was gonna do okay, it got a 25 out of 110 points. It's really fucking low.
Tyler 56:34
It's pretty low. Yeah, I mean, the only there are only two. Like saving grace is really animation and protagonist. The rest was not that great. I think it's just, it's a good example of like, I don't know. Just sometimes Disney like the thing with Disney like that. Perhaps one thing that I really like about Disney movies, even when they're like, looking back at them. They're problematic is Disney has a proven track record of like taking an established thing like a classic tale classic fable, and making it fresh and new. through the medium of animation. And this end, even fucking incredible journey. Like the original was like a Disney movie as far as I remember. But like Disney takes in a thing and makes it fresh and new. This was like Disney recycling itself. And recycling like old ideas. And the animation is fresh and new and looks cool for 2008. But that's not enough to carry a movie. And I don't know. I mean, this is the beginning of the so called Disney revival apparently, but I don't see it. And I don't think you'll see it until a later movie.
Misha 57:42
Like I told you. I didn't even know this existed. Yeah. I want so I just looked through my notes quickly. I forgot about this, because she mentioned it kind of in passing. But mittens is declawed.
Tyler 57:58
Yeah.
Misha 57:59
Did you catch that? I did. Yeah. I was really upset because I've had declared cats do not declare cats I adopted or rescued cats that had been previously declared by owners. Here's my little PSA for today. When it's a very painful procedure, it's basically the same as removing the first knuckle like the top knuckles of your fingers. And so it's deforming them. And it's a it's a painful surgery. And then cats because of it, because it's a essentially their defense. They can become aggressive afterwards if you declawed them. And thankfully, I think it's been outlawed in New York state or city now, which I'm really glad about. But cats become aggressive. They start biting and so a lot of people will be like, Oh, my cats all fucked up and like mean, and then they dump them in shelters. And so that's what probably mitten story is, you know, I've had a few declawed cats that we've rescued for that reason. They tend to be biters and so which I'll take a cat bite over a cat scratch any day, but it's just really sad. Like, when she said that I was like, this whole movie is just sad.
Tyler 59:15
Yeah, and then I went back to, cuz I watched it on Friday and then I went back to like, skip through and like check out the music again today. And I noticed like in the scene where mittens is introduced, and she's shaking down the pigeons like
Misha 59:28
yeah, she says gonna take I'm gonna I'm gonna argue essentially Yeah,
Tyler 59:33
but she's just fucking lying because she doesn't have them and that's made it even more upsetting like she's yes she's like yeah, she's she's become this nasty person because she had a horrible past Yeah. And like why not pigeons fall for pitches can fucking fly. Just fly away.
Misha 59:50
Aren't No, I don't think pigeons are that fast because we have a Cooper's Hawk that will hang out around that's a hawk always cat always gets the pigeons Well, not the other birds it always gets the pigeons.
Tyler 1:00:03
Yeah. Well, I never said pigeons were super fast, but like pigeons are flying there to bring the bread to mittens don't fly there to bring the bread. It's just I mean, pigeons aren't famous for their intelligence. But come on pigeons.
Misha 1:00:18
Pigeons are really good at navigation homing.
Tyler 1:00:21
Not the same thing as smarts not the same as street smarts a different type of
Misha 1:00:25
smart. Yeah, just because they're not human smart. Or dogs smart. Or cat smart doesn't mean they're not smart. They're,
Tyler 1:00:32
they're very good at navigating their way to give bread to a cat. I'll give them that. They're good at finding their way to their Shakedown. Boss.
Misha 1:00:43
Also,
Tyler 1:00:44
I have no problem with pigeons. I get a lot of people hate Ben, so I'm fine with them. Sorry, pigeons. You're gonna What were you gonna say?
Misha 1:00:50
I don't know. Like, I just feel so bad for her.
Tyler 1:00:54
It's this is this is a really odd movie that I wouldn't have expected to come out in the late 2000s Like it's a it's it's making light of a really like a fucking animal abuse and it's really weird. Like,
Misha 1:01:10
they're all every single animal is badly treated, you would expect them they replaced bolt with new ball and I'm like, great, just another dog. They're going to torture
Tyler 1:01:20
like you would this is the type of thing you'd expect from like an old cowboy movie where like they're tripping horses. Like,
Misha 1:01:26
yeah,
Tyler 1:01:28
this is
Misha 1:01:29
well, dressage still exists.
Tyler 1:01:31
Yeah.
Misha 1:01:32
That's all the same shit. Yeah. I think people in general humans care about animals in general. Yeah. We're not telling anybody about the raccoons in our yard for that reason.
Tyler 1:01:44
Oh, the sweet. So Misha sent me this picture of these like sweet three cute sleep. Raccoon sleeping in what was it a garage or it's
Misha 1:01:52
like the eaves of a garage? Yeah, like, it's our property. There's five we saw five tails hanging down. So cute. Yeah, raccoons
Tyler 1:02:00
are so cute. Yeah,
Misha 1:02:02
my sister who is like, they mess with her. She lives in the burbs. And they mess with her garbage. She's like, Okay, I don't like raccoons, because they mess with our shit. But like, those are some cute records.
Tyler 1:02:13
They're especially cute records. Dave reminded me of this. Awesome. My wife and I went to a zoo in Spain. And it was like, it was we were on. We were on holiday. And it was like, yeah, not let's not talk about. Yeah, I know your feelings about it was like a super hot day. It was like 100 something and like, there was nothing else to do in this town. So we went to the zoo. And there was a really cute rare, like, lazy red panda. And that's what those records reminded me. Oh, I
Misha 1:02:40
love red panda like that. Really? Red panels at the Bronx Zoo here. I say we have them because I used to work there.
Tyler 1:02:48
Speaking people love raccoons. Oslo loves raccoons more than most.
Misha 1:02:51
I was hoping that you'd show her that. Yeah, I did. I have more photos. I mean, I could just send it to her to I don't
Tyler 1:02:58
have to ask you to do it. But yeah, you can send more photos to her. She would love it. Yeah. Well,
Misha 1:03:05
don't watch bolt. Don't watch what's coming. Next is brave, which we've
Tyler 1:03:13
talked about on the podcast before I have seen I will hold up my opinion
Misha 1:03:17
been the first like 15 minutes with a nephew.
Tyler 1:03:22
And I'm gonna I'll watch it again because I don't he was very cute
Misha 1:03:24
about it. So my nephew who's five. He's actually now five and three quarters. But when we watched it, he was five. And he was telling me that the bear in it is scary. And then we get to the bear scene and I was like, You're right. That is scary. And he put his hand on my shoulder when during MIMO my nephew's coming NUMA during MIMO it's just make believe. Very cute. Yeah. I don't know if people care about.
Tyler 1:03:54
Well, folks. I think that about wraps it up. We will see you again next time for brave thanks everyone for listening. And yeah, if you want to get in touch you can email us at [email protected] or
Misha 1:04:12
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Tyler 1:04:36
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