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Tyler 00:00
content warning although this is a podcast about kids movies, this podcast isn't for kids and may contain content some people find offensive
Misha 00:26
Welcome to Much Abu About Nothing a podcast where we discuss and rate animated Disney films going in alphabetical order following a rigorous and scientific scoring system based on absolutely nothing. I'm Misha.
Tyler 00:43
Tyler, welcome to this episode of Home on the raid from 2004 I
Misha 00:52
think you don't know what Tyler said. He said we are talking about the Disney movie Home on the Range.
Tyler 00:59
I feel like I was very clear with what I just said. But yeah. Oh wait, no. I'll cut that out. Yeah, we're talking about a well zany movie from 2004. It's sandwiched between as far as I remember. It came after Brother Bear and before Chicken Little so it's in good company. Home
Misha 01:28
to 1000s We're a weird time. Yeah,
Tyler 01:31
it's a it was a weird time. This movie was the last traditional animated one Intel they brought it back with Princess and the Frog in 2009 ish. I think so. Yeah, it's a weird time. And then they kind of go fuck, what are we doing? Let's move to digital.
Misha 01:50
Yeah, yeah, well, let's get into it.
Tyler 01:54
I'm ready to get into it. Okay. We danced around the topic. We danced around controversy with Hercules. We sort of did this.
Misha 02:03
Let's Move.
Tyler 02:05
Move and move on. Yeah, awesome. Okay, this is gonna be good. This is gonna be a good episode. I feel it in my bones. So welcome, everybody. If you haven't been to this podcast before been to this podcast, listen to this podcast before we rate these movies on different categories originality, story, animation, music and sound. Protagonist sidekick villain henchmen strong female lead bipoc representation slash portrayal and fun factor. And then it might be minus points if something doesn't sit right if something's icky. Icky Dickey, as I have to say that I did say or might get bonus points for effervescence.
Misha 02:50
That's, you shouldn't throw out the AQ Dickey and her
Tyler 02:54
is that pretty icky dickey.
Misha 02:56
That was an icky Dickey move.
Tyler 02:59
And then effervescence bonus points if there's some special Disney magic to something greater than the sum of its parts. So giving it a score out of 110 Why 110? Not 100 You might say because eat a bag of icky Dickie Yes Okay, so yeah, what is Home on the Range all about me. So
Misha 03:21
there's this show cow who gets sold to a small farm called patch ahead to heaven and I don't know why this farmer bought her because she was in severe debt and was on the brink of foreclosure but still was like I'll buy a new show cow I
Tyler 03:50
don't think I don't think any money change hands or I think that the old time the guy who gave away I know that in real life but the guy had no farm left. He was like well, I'll give this cow to a good home. I mean, that is not how life works but that is not how that movie we didn't see Nicole cash green greenbacks get get but you didn't see him explain why he gave this cow to her. Maybe she paid in another way. She's just making bad decisions and that's why she paid another way icky
Tyler 04:26
gross
Misha 04:32
you set me up for that. Okay, okay.
Tyler 04:34
Give me some farm eggs I wasn't talking about
Misha 04:48
okay, so fresh. Okay, boy, the tears so rosy Amber Are is a cool cat was Roseanne. She? Oh yeah. And she moves to patch of heaven. And then they don't. James jam. Dame Judi Dench doesn't like her because she's like you are too rough around the edges. We are nice. And you are too sassy. And they don't get along. And then they find out that the farm is going to be auctioned off. If their farmer can't pay her $750 outstanding mortgage fee she owes the bank. Yeah. That's a big chunk of change.
Tyler 05:47
Big chunk of change whichever time period this takes place.
Misha 05:51
I mean, I'm guessing like, mid 19th century, that'd be good guess it'd be late 19th century, sort
Tyler 05:58
of wild west the cowpokes. And we've got railroads. So yeah, probably around there. Oh, actually,
Misha 06:04
I would say Okay, I will get to this later. But, you know, good to now. Based on how slow the train was going, when the horse could run faster than it. It would probably be the first half of the 19th century that a horse can run faster than a steam locomotive. Yeah.
Tyler 06:32
However, railroads didn't cross the wild west until after the 1840s I think but so
Misha 06:39
before 1850 So okay, that gives us a nice little slice of when this movie could have a nice
Tyler 06:47
little path to heaven. It depends also how far west quote in quotes. We are here but it looks like Wiley Coyote land, which is like, I don't know. It's supposed to be Nevada or something I don't even know. So I was gonna say Nevada to 1863 days. 69 was when the Transcontinental Railroad was completed.
Misha 07:10
Fun fact. Wow. Okay,
Tyler 07:13
so on the backs of Chinese immigrants.
Misha 07:17
Oh, yeah, we will talk about we'll talk about that. I'm sure. Cuz, yeah. So they find out that the farm is going to be auctioned off. And the cows are UPS everybody's upset. I mean, all the animals who talk this is a movie about a
Tyler 07:35
movie about talking animals
Misha 07:36
movie about jockeying for banjos. Okay, case you haven't figured that out yet? Roseanne Barr is a cow. Yeah. Dame Judi Dench is a cat Jennifer Tilly is a cat. I was Jennifer Tilly cow. Cooper Gooding Jr. Horse.
Tyler 07:52
He's a horse. Yeah.
Misha 07:54
Steve Buscemi. Humans. Weird.
Tyler 07:56
Weasel human. The mom from Seinfeld is a chicken. I forget her real name. She just passed away like a week ago. We're gonna Estelle something. Yeah, she's
Misha 08:07
in it. So their farmer doesn't know how she's going to come up with $750 So the cows, Roseanne Barr specifically takes it upon herself to figure out what to do. So she gets Jennifer Tilly and Dame Judi Dench. Yeah. to mosey on to town. Figure out what they're going to do. They go to town. There's a commotion. Oh, find out from a flyer that there's a set exact same amount. $750 reward for capturing Alameda Slim.
Tyler 08:48
Alameda Slim. How surprised? I mean, how fortuitous. The price is the same.
Misha 08:55
Same exact reward money as they would take to pay off the mortgage, I think of the farm. And so they decide led by Roseanne Barr to go catch Alameda Slim. Yep. I can't say Maggie, because I'm just confused by that. There's too many names, too many names. Or a lot of characters. I'm doing my best. And so they go to do that. Now. While they're figuring out this plan. kooba The horse horse horse sheriff's horse who delivered the bank notice that she will be foreclosed on book is an A key Deki
Tyler 09:44
and it was happy about ruining people's lives.
Misha 09:49
Awful. Yeah. And the sheriff says okay, this guy new Rico comes into town bounty hunter. Bounty Hunter Rico comes into town. The sheriff sends Rico to go get Alameda Slim. The cattle stealer and Kuba horse Kuba wants to be Rico's horse because Rico needs a new horse. I don't remember why. And so
Tyler 10:16
this horse is good because he probably is an asshole and rode the horse to the bone and then needed, like basically swap out like refueling. That happened quite a bit with like Pony Express type things. They would just like, run the horse ragged and then like, get a new horse and the next time and the horse has a real really wants to be written by Rico like hard. A He really
Misha 10:37
does. He's
Tyler 10:38
got a hero, you're a worship. Yeah,
Misha 10:41
so Kuba is like me, Pick Me Pick Me. Pick Me. Pick Me, me. Me, me, me, me gets written by Rico. And Kuba is real mean to the three cows. Oh, big time, and they got a little competitive thing going on who's going to catch Alameda Slim. Fast forward to the three later cows catch up to Alameda. And they try to catch him. But guess what? I'll meet a slim has a trick up his sleeve. He yodel. hypnotizes cows. That's how he steals all of them. And he breaks out into the absolutely
Tyler 11:19
insane. Yeah,
Misha 11:22
it's said the best part of this movie. Yodel video. If you only watch a portion of this video, this movie, watch this yodel saw. Yeah, just look it up on YouTube and yeah yodel hypnotizes cows and Jennifer Tilly Grace can't be hypnotized. Because she has such a terrible ear and is such a horrible singer. She thinks he is the one who's off and she's like, Oh, he sucks. He can't sing but we learned on their little journey as they're moving along that you know what? She's the terrible tone deaf and we are forced to listen to her for a very long honestly
Tyler 12:12
this that whole like conceit of how she can't be hypnotized. I thought was really funny but man did they really milk that tone deaf thing like the singing just kept going? And look look
Misha 12:27
Is that what you do? A cow boy
Misha 12:37
did you know that if you squeeze a cow's teat on their utter it makes it sound like
Tyler 12:46
oh what is wrong with me? My head is all scrambled but I did like that but I did like how she's like, tone deaf. Nice. It just like maybe one too many bad songs. But anyway, we'll get to that good and that only going and
Misha 13:03
so she rescues the other two cows from being captured by Alameda Slim's yodeling which is excellent yeah egg and then Kuba catches up to them I don't know what happens. They keep doing the thing trying to find a way it starts raining. It starts raining watch for
Misha 13:44
Dame Judi Dench wants to go home. Roseanne Barr doesn't they get into a fight? They meet a rabbit. A jack rabbit. Who's a shaman slash slash chef. Okay, these are
Tyler 14:01
real fast. Shaman chef Shabbos slash shaman flasher. Yeah.
Misha 14:06
And somehow they decide to keep going well, because Jack Rabbit tells him where the hideout is. This is where Alameda Slim's hideout is. Okay, they go to the hideout. He's got 5000 No, he's got 4997 Longhorns cattle. He is about to sell to Steve Buscemi. And then Steve Buscemi scam is there
Tyler 14:43
and like Mr. Adams like
Misha 14:46
to looking like Steve Buscemi. You're about to swap. The cows come up with a plan to like bunk. Almita slim over the head. They capture him, there's a lot of back and forth where Kuba gets ahold of him. Kubo is trying to capture AMITA slim to impress Rico, the bounty hunter, there's a train that shows up. They find out that Rico is actually working for Alameda and Kuba gets upset and starts beating up Rico, then the cows are trapped in a train that Steve Buscemi is taking to whatever. I don't really know what the
Tyler 15:36
plan is the border and I think they were going south for somebody south to the border for some reason.
Misha 15:41
Okay, it doesn't matter. And our three main cows, they bust their way out of the train, beat everybody up. And Alameda Slim in this whole commotion gets away. And heads towards Oh my god. Thing to patch of heaven because he has been pretending to be by dressing up in disguise as this other guy, Yancey Odle aka No, no, no, why Odell? Yodel. I actually wrote a note because I didn't realize that was him and I was like he's obviously hiring for it, but I was like, Wait, that is when
Tyler 16:32
you see you see him as a background in one point going to buy the when when they be in the past Maggie Roseanne Barr's old farm they show him in the background like and it's I'd maybe I just happened to see him. I think it was. I mean, it's very obviously him. If you if you see it, it's like oh, it's that dude with glasses on?
Misha 16:51
Okay, well, I didn't notice I was like buried coats. I can't tell anybody apart. I don't know what names are every looks the same. So he's on his way to go. By patch of heaven in the
Tyler 17:06
form of revenge for some reason for
Misha 17:08
okay. We'll get into that with the villain. Yeah, I don't understand that at all. And the three cows and the jack rabbit learn how to drive a train. So they then take the train along with Kuba. Yeah. Who's being nice? No, because he realized that he was like, they're the real heroes. He said that he was like, Oh, you're the real heroes. Not
Tyler 17:34
because that's the thing. He was wanting to be a hero. He wasn't particularly like, only obsessed. He was just obsessed. Because Rico was a hero. He thought, yeah. Like doing rhyming heroes,
Misha 17:45
so and then he realized that Rico was bad. And the real heroes were the three cows. And so they all go to stop the auction. They ruin the whole farm by Yeah, careening the railroad, the train,
Tyler 18:02
sometimes you gotta ruin sometimes you gotta ruin something to save, and
Misha 18:07
then they beat up Alameda Slim some more, and then get the reward. Yeah, for catching him. He's on demand. And the sheriff goes, the sheriff goes, well, cows can't do anything with money. So I'll just give to the reward to their person, which is the farmer and so she takes the reward and she sees the end. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, doesn't really matter. And then like, yeah, and then it doesn't matter. I really do care about their interpersonal
Tyler 18:45
interpersonal bullshit, which will get me to get into with protect when we get to protagonist but it's really threadbare over the
Misha 18:53
course of this journey. Dame Judi Dench, Mrs. Callaway and Roseanne Barr, make friends with each other. And that is
Tyler 19:04
how Yeah, like during the flood scene where they're like, I'm gonna go this way. I'm gonna go this way. There's like the classic thing. We're like, fine. I don't like you anyway, and they don't like each other. But then they're like, reluctantly stuck together and then they learn to love each other by the end. It's a pretty, pretty Tropi trope with I feel like
Misha 19:24
that was pretty succinct.
Tyler 19:27
Let's get into it. Was it I mean, for this movie, this this movie is pretty bonkers. So
Misha 19:33
and for this podcast for this partners gaps.
Tyler 19:38
Originality. What did you think about the originality of this movie?
Misha 19:42
The story itself is so unoriginal. It's just like the story has been told. And then they just put like, cows in western themed foreclosure.
Tyler 19:54
Imminent, zany plan hatched chaos ensues. I feel if that has happened a lot
Misha 20:01
go and they go on a journey like to travel to like find somebody and I don't know.
Tyler 20:08
Isn't that what Field of Dreams is about?
Misha 20:11
No like there's no if you build it surely built her fire I know but like and who will?
Tyler 20:16
Well there's a farm that's going to be foreclosed. And then the guy goes on a zany quest to like build a baseball field.
Misha 20:22
That's a that's not a quest. He just does it when he goes and gets
Tyler 20:26
James Earl Jones I feel like that's a quest. Anyway, all right, remember that movie very well clearly. But yeah, it wasn't so original. Also, it was like it's one of those this I guess doesn't affect the score, but it was like stuck in development hell for a while, like first it was going to be about like a one of those called those like Paul Bunyan and Pecos Bill and Davy Crockett. What are those called? Tall Tales? It was going to be about like a tall tale type figure. Or like any Oakley there was like they were banding about like maybe doing a nice
Misha 21:01
saloon or like whatever any something and I thought that was Manny Oakley, referent of all
Tyler 21:07
these like zany Wild West characters. Any Oakley might be the only one that's like, safe to do something about and not a war criminal. But, you know,
Misha 21:16
is Paul Bunyan, a war criminal?
Tyler 21:18
Paul Bunyan is not real.
Misha 21:20
I know. But he's in an original story. Like I know what the story is. But was there like something that happened in the fable that I never heard of? He's fucking chops down trees and is slow at it. And a loser goes around and gets mad and has a temper tantrum. Yeah, good point. Actually, Steve and I dressed up as Paul Bunyan and babe the Blue Ox one year for Halloween. Made a very cute save the blue odds.
Tyler 21:47
That is cute. I switched last
Misha 21:51
minute. Steve doesn't want to actually commit to dressing up. So what does he look like? And what can I do to actually dress up? That's pretty.
Tyler 22:02
I mean, that's pretty clever. I would have never never thought of it. Well, I switched it. When I when my brain went to Annie Oakley. I switched to historical figures because Annie Oakley is not a tattletale. She's an actual person that lived so, so I switched to her.
Misha 22:14
They are all tales told about her. Yes.
Tyler 22:17
But when I thought of her I thought of like Wild Bill Hickok. Yeah, like Buffalo Bill. who's like, you know, anyway, that's a different story. I mean, I guess, talking
Misha 22:27
about the American West, and like, you're gonna run into atrocities, regardless of like, who and what? Like the story? Yeah. Yeah. So
Tyler 22:41
yeah, but yeah, so this story went through a couple different directors and story ideas and eventually landed on this story. That's like, not very original. Yeah. Yeah. And even like, the animals being the protagonist, part of it is maybe not even that original, either. But, yeah,
Misha 22:58
I don't know. I would say like a two or three, a three, maybe a three. Like, it's
Tyler 23:03
gonna say it doesn't deserve a one. Sum. That's kind of a little bit of something. Yeah. I mean, for Christ's sakes, the bad guy is a yodeler. That's a little original. Like, that's pretty good. I mean, that's pretty good. We'll talk about but
Misha 23:18
that's in the Yeah, that's in the villain. category, which I? Yeah. It's not very original.
Tyler 23:27
Let's say three. I mean, okay. Or two, whichever one you prefer.
Misha 23:31
It felt like a two watching it. Like kind of boring story. Like, this is just redone with a different skin.
Tyler 23:39
Okay. Yeah. Gotta save the farm for old gramming. So yeah, to
Misha 23:45
story. It's fine.
Tyler 23:46
I mean, it's fine. It's somewhere in the middle. Maybe it's like it's there's nothing really
Misha 23:51
bad side of okay, good side. Okay. Just okay. Just okay.
Tyler 23:57
I think it's just okay. I think it's like, okay, it's five across the board for this one. Or not? Five straight for this one. Yeah, I
Misha 24:04
think I'm just okay.
Tyler 24:06
There are things I liked about it. I honestly, I did not hate this movie as much as I thought I would.
Misha 24:14
I hit just like through thing is it's too mediocre. To hate anything. Yeah. Right. It's just like,
Tyler 24:22
but it also it also makes people like, which we'll get into it. Well, it makes a couple of wild swings, which I love
Misha 24:31
the wild swings. I'd be that yodeling seed. Yeah, that's the wildest swing and it knocked it out of the park. Home run Chicken Little When.
Tyler 24:45
When a movie takes like a big wild swing, even if it's a fail like a wild wild swing. Yeah, maybe five for story. It's like, yeah, like what can we say about it? It's a it's got some. It's got some zaniness, it's got some Adventure. It's got some it's got very little like emotion and emotional weight. Yeah. But McKinney say. Yeah, five. Yeah. All right. And let's get to the good. Let's get to animation. The animation is great. It's great.
Misha 25:17
There are parts I had problems with. Oh, yeah,
Tyler 25:20
for sure. Yeah.
Misha 25:22
But is it okay? Normally when there's an animal, heavy movie, the people are horrible because it's an afterthought, but the people were really good. Like, I actually thought the farmer looked awesome. The sheriff great. I mean, Steve Buscemi looked like Steve Buscemi.
Tyler 25:51
Yeah, it ghoulish we all made a slim looked. He was great. The cartoonish his
Misha 25:58
nephews were off putting and I don't know whether
Tyler 26:03
the willies the willie gang. Yeah, the willie brothers. They were I think it's because they didn't have their hair covered their faces and made them look I
Misha 26:14
don't know where they came from. Why they were there what their anything was, but we'll get to that with henchmen. The backgrounds the scenery, beautiful.
Tyler 26:28
Really good. Yeah. Reminded me of like Goof Troop and like Goofy. Like, not Goofy, Goofy Movie. Sorry. Which reminded me of like Looney Tunes.
Misha 26:38
Yeah, like the Wild West.
Tyler 26:40
Yeah, exactly.
Misha 26:42
In the in the desert was really nice. I did not like their use of CGI. It's that edit was out of place and very bizarre.
Tyler 26:53
So there are a couple of parts. There's one where there's like the sad scene, where they're the Bonnie Raitt is singing about how bad 911 was, and they show the inside of the house, they show the room, the living room, that scene looks really, really
Misha 27:09
weird. Why would we use CGI to like 3d around the living room? For the railroad track, like inside the mine, when they were like they did it and I understand why they used it then. It didn't look good. It doesn't hold up. Now.
Tyler 27:29
Yeah, but for the time it looked like Oh, passable. Oh,
Misha 27:33
no, no. Oh, I'm gonna say this. Jurassic Park used CGI, and it was amazing. Okay, so for the most part, the CGI I get why they used it in like a mind be like ooh, like go and like down a mineshaft on these tracks. Pupu but like, in the living room was really really strange and bizarre. It's
Tyler 28:01
the one that just Yeah, it really stood out the the mind I was like, Okay, I noticed this. And also doing it though, but I get it and a little bit with the train the train Chase at the end was a little bit, but it made sense. But the living room one made no sense. It just made it look really bad. Yeah, really bad. But for the most part, like it's to D traditional style animation and
Misha 28:24
liked it for the most part. Yeah. Yeah, it
Tyler 28:26
looks pretty good. zany when it needs to be zany and characters like have grow the big weird penis welts when they get hit
Misha 28:34
on the head, which is another horseshoe around a penis lump. They describe it.
Tyler 28:40
There's a lot of like weird Donald Duck Crazy Eyes.
Misha 28:43
During the yodeling hypnotizing scene. It's the best I love that scene. I love that whole. Like, yeah, totally crazy, like Dumbo esque trip. Yeah. So for
Tyler 28:58
those that haven't seen this, and just won't take the energy to like, click on YouTube to watch it. The movie is like a pretty straight, Goofy looking Disney Animation. Like it looks like any other Disney movie kind of but then it gets to that scene where the yodel yodel hypnotism
Misha 29:16
from Dumbo, it's so yeah, and the eyes as they're hypnotized, like, Donald. I loved it. It was really good. It was so good. Yeah. Yeah, it was like I would go I would go kind of high on this one.
Tyler 29:32
That's why I said I thought it was like great. I mean, it's
Misha 29:35
so off put by that fucking CGI in the living room scene. I like Yeah.
Tyler 29:42
I think this is like like, something like a strong seven or something like that. It's not like an eight or nine. It's like a seven. Which
Misha 29:48
is good. Yes. Because I think the CGI brings it down to a seven. Yeah.
Tyler 29:54
Oh my god. Yeah. Sweet. All right. Move it along with zip and zap. Kooky Chris.
Misha 30:08
Okay, you got another Meghan score? You
Tyler 30:12
got to call him up again or is He? Is he still taking your calls?
Misha 30:16
He's kind of mad at me.
Tyler 30:20
I would imagine so yeah. Um,
Misha 30:22
but he did reuse the tiniest little bit in this and I did notice that I was like, Wait a second. This sounds super familiar. made this. He did what? I was like you wouldn't agree you hear? I'm gonna, you know, what do we need to call up? You
Tyler 30:39
know, do you know there? There are a limited number of notes on a scale you do know that right? Like there's gonna be some over
Misha 30:46
it's not overlap. It's not over it is it's 100% overlap that's reusing it's the same composer which makes something totally original right now.
Tyler 31:01
Let's do it. Go for it.
Misha 31:03
Be it'd be really ready
Tyler 31:10
okay, until the end I was like well this sounds really similar to another song that I've heard but yeah. That you've been a little bit deeper. We'll play the tape back it's pretty much the same. Yeah, but which song said what song sounded like I didn't say sorry. I
Misha 31:31
missed it. It was like five seconds of the of the score during a scene and I can't tell you I can't really sing it.
Tyler 31:40
But do you remember like what it was like?
Misha 31:43
A whole new world? I don't know Tyler Jesus. Well,
Tyler 31:49
because if it stood out to you, I thought maybe like oh, that sounds exactly like this thing from or whatever.
Misha 31:55
I don't know if you know this. I've been watching a lot of Disney movies lately and some of these scores are like just in my head I can't retrieve them but when I hear them it you know rings a little bell yes it nomming rings a bell in this head. So if something rings a bell you know it's legit. Yeah,
Tyler 32:15
no fairs. That is a fair point. With all due respect to your head. I
Misha 32:21
have the worst memory I mean, obviously. They I ask them to name a cow named cat the character's name. Name nickname one of them.
Tyler 32:33
There's a lot of silence over there. Yep. Maggie, yes, Grace. and Mrs. Callaway or Lady Cal. I think it was actually lady Callaway but they just kept saying Callaway misses Callaway Yep. Nothing stood out to me is like oh, he Mankins this is this is full Mankin again. But the score is all like all that West, your knee like sort of rouse about where you could do the same reason that like we didn't like some of the score in A Bug's Life. It's
Misha 33:06
just totally makes sense. Because a Western and I actually, it was all fitting
Tyler 33:13
it fit. It's just like songs. Yeah, didn't have any problem with them. And like when it needs to be dramatic, like when the flood I mean, the movie doesn't go to drama, capital D ever really. But when it needs to be a little bit more dramatic with the flood and when the cars are angry at each other. The score matches it. Score heightens it. I thought the score is fine. It's just like when I hear music that is like, oh, it we're making this genre movie. So now insert genre music. It just bugs me a little bit like you.
Misha 33:44
I think it should fly for you. Yeah, I
Tyler 33:49
got it. Like, oh, this is a heist movie. Insert insert insert jazzy This is a movie about the 60s insert like Buffalo Springfield and and Creedence Clearwater Revival. And
Misha 34:12
alumni are thinking about different type a different genre from the 60s because I was you know, automatically thinking about civil rights but and you were like saying other
Tyler 34:23
I was thinking about like the Vietnam movies basically. Yeah, yeah. What? What are weird the 60s What? The 60s What did you think about the songs? In the movie? Like there's one from Katie Lange. There's one from Bonnie Raitt. And then there are two at the end from Tim McGraw and the Bose
Misha 34:50
you know, I'm gonna say I thought they were all fine and fitting and I you know, they were a little you You know, hit the nail on the head. But we've seen some really atrocious sides. Yeah, we have some of these are horrible. They said, No, they fit. They were good. And that's all I want. Like, that's the lowest I want to go and we've seen so much worse and so I thought the music and the score were on the good side of okay, yeah, I
Tyler 35:30
didn't like the first Home on the Range song just because like some of the lyrics were really lame. Like, were the one that's like Old West. Yeah.
Misha 35:38
But that's like, kind of right. It's like the Yeah, the lyrics are weird. The good side of okay, and I that fucking your leg side, I would give that alone a 10 out of 10 the yodeling song was good. Just when he started. I was like, Oh, this is awful. Because that's not the point. He can't sing. And He even talks about how he can't sing and gets really mad. Because it's not about the singing. It's the yodeling yodeling I would that was just so good.
Tyler 36:11
Yeah. And they did a good job of that. They did it does bump it up. I think they did a good job like Randy Quaid, who famous famous Independence Day actor and now I think criminal and Randy Quaid, he was the voice actor and he did the singing part. But then they got to professional noodlers to do the yodeling. And I think that was a smart like they actually got yo dollars to do it and they can really crush it and it was good. And they brought the the weaved in like there was like 1812 overture in there like Ninth Symphony from Beethoven in the Hall of the Mountain King by Edvard Grieg and one point they like weaved in these like classical motifs was really interesting. yodeling brought it up. I thought the Katie Lange like patch of Heaven song was really great. I thought it was really great.
Misha 37:01
To patch of Heaven song was really nice. The
Tyler 37:05
Bonnie rates I will fit fine. And she's got a great voice. It's just really schmaltzy. And like it was, it was written, like for 911, which was kind of weird. And also I thought, but Tim McGraw one was fine. Did you listen to the final song at the final end of the credits? That song was not good. Not good enough, but it's at the end of the month so
Misha 37:26
bad, but it wasn't that bad. Like yeah, even though the worst songs were still in the Okay, range. Yeah.
Tyler 37:34
It just was weird to you remember at the end of Atlantis, like the credits hit, and then suddenly there's like a pop song. I'm glad they didn't do that. Because that's what they do. Sometimes.
Misha 37:43
Like I was thinking when it started, I was like, oh, but it wasn't. Yeah. And it fit still. It was like, pop ish, but not a full pop song.
Tyler 37:53
Yeah. But it was also halfway through the credits. And everyone's already by that point.
Misha 37:58
So first and credit song.
Tyler 38:01
Yeah. That was like Tim McGraw. Which fit? Yeah, it was just weird that they made that choice. But yeah, anyway. So a little bit better than Okay, so like a six? Is that what you're thinking? For?
Misha 38:15
No, six is on the good side of okay. That's the Okay. Well, you
Tyler 38:18
want it to be higher than good side of Okay. I
Misha 38:20
think it should be higher. I think it should be a seven with the yodeling. I
Tyler 38:23
would say it should be a seven. Also, the sound for the most part was good. I thought the sound of the movie. Okay.
Misha 38:29
So the thing is, there's no problems with the music and sound. And you're saying to give it a seven, even with the yodeling side because then the animation, but there are problems. Yeah, but it was better to begin with. Okay, I think it's seven. But
Tyler 38:44
the thing is also like, they're getting sevens for different reasons. Like the music was fine. Yes. But not great. Up.
Misha 38:51
Yeah. Right. And then the animation was good and then brought down. Yeah. Okay.
Tyler 38:56
Just one other little call to something. This isn't really that important, but it's done. It's stood out for both good and bad reasons. When they get out of the flood and they're hiding under that little cave thing. Miss Galloway turns and confronts Maggie and her voice changes and gets echo year. Who is Maggie Maggie's Roseanne Barr is character. Thank you. The big the big. What did she say about her character? She I forget what she said. Oh, her others are all natural. Stop staring or whatever. Yeah, it was really good. Day Dan Judi Dench, his character turns to confront Maggie and when she does the sound changes in gets echo. We're because she's under this cave. Which is cool that they thought to do that. But it didn't sound good. Like it was way too echoey for like, that. Wasn't even a real case. The
Misha 39:46
size of the case. I'm like, yeah, it was just an overhang. Okay, yeah, I don't know. Whatever. It's so cute.
Tyler 39:52
I liked it. But I also was like, Man that stands out in his word. Yeah, okay, seven. Sweet. Okay.
Misha 40:01
agonist protagonist
Tyler 40:05
Megan Callaway and grace. I think they're great. Yes.
Tyler 40:10
For the most, for the most part, okay.
Misha 40:12
They're like kind of annoying all of them are like one no and I don't like that. It is
Tyler 40:18
pretty bad. Yeah, there's like the dumb blonde who saves the day. I really hate this.
Misha 40:23
She's also like hippie ish, and I don't like that. I don't know and like, what's up with? What's her name? Callaway Callaway Callaway misses Callaway cow Callaway now, the way Callaway Callaway looses Callaway looses most is how the way Callaway came. Judi Dench was so obsessed with their hat and I don't understand why they did that. And it was like kind of annoyed by it. And it was just like, I don't know, all three of them were kind of one note.
Tyler 41:02
It didn't really make sense why it was such a big deal. But I guess if someone some people like like to wear hats and they get mad if take their hat. I guess I've never met a person like that. Have you ever met a cow? That she did have kind of weird hair? I'll be honest, I would know this is a no judgment zone. But she had weird hair. She
Misha 41:19
didn't know. Okay, you can judge cows hairs. Hair hair, multiple hairs multiple.
Tyler 41:24
She had a weird do.
Misha 41:26
She had a weird hairdo? And maybe she didn't like it. So she was hiding it.
Tyler 41:32
Yeah. But then she she blew us she went like full Yosemite Sam and like blew her stack Friday. She blew her stack as Yosemite Sam would say. Yeah, I think they're they were fun. But they're too one note to be great. So my original yelling out there greatest is needs to be tempered and dialed back. I think I
Misha 41:53
think they were on the good side of okay. Yeah,
Tyler 42:00
I think that's that's good. I think I can go with the six. Yeah, I was gonna say something about these characters. But now I don't remember. Well, I guess we one thing we covered already the I liked the conceit that one of them's tone deaf and that's how she can that's she gets around that vulnerability that cows have to yodeling which is just insane. Yeah. Like that. I like to to I liked count I
Misha 42:21
like it's more like this me adds to the story. Yeah.
Tyler 42:25
I liked Dame Judi Dench is prim and proper cow versus the brash. I mean, they're all just they're all one note, but they're Yeah, it's like a solid six. That makes sense.
Misha 42:34
Okay. Sidekick. Is there isn't one? Yeah,
Tyler 42:39
I was gonna say the jack rabbit, but he's not really in it enough. And later books that have mass Jose nasil antagonists for most of the movies? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So one that's a big fat one.
Misha 42:50
Yeah. Let's talk about this villain.
Tyler 42:54
It's talking about what was his name again? Alameda Slim.
Misha 42:58
Alameda Slim. Why can I remember that? I don't know. It rolls off the tongue Alameda Slim. Listen, if you don't have a name that rolls off the tongue, I won't remember. But if you have a name like Almita slim sticks my brain. Yeah.
Tyler 43:14
You, sir, are a mouthful. He is. Okay. So in the beginning. I was like, what are they going to do with this guy? Like, this guy seems like he's not going to be that interesting. And then he started yodeling. And I was
Misha 43:28
like, I don't like anything about him. He's not like, falls flat, mediocre across the board. But the fucking yodeling thing. Yes. So weird. And I love it.
Tyler 43:40
I think we have I mean, we did get points in music for it. But I think we do still have to kind of like bump them up a little bit. Yeah, because he's, it's his weird superpower. And that's a part of his character, I think. Yeah. But he's his motivation makes no sense. He's out for revenge again. Talk
Misha 43:55
about his. So he was a cattle rancher? Yeah. For ranch owners who treated him badly or highfalutin? No, he didn't even say that for highfalutin cattle, ranch owners who? And he said they didn't appreciate his skills, or something like that, right? Like they just didn't appreciate that he could hypnotize cows with yodeling. And because he didn't appreciate him enough. He is now getting his revenge by force by stealing the cattle of small farm owners. Every farm for I think, for every farm, including the smallest little farm owners, farmers to force them into foreclosure.
Tyler 44:51
And then he sells the cows to Steve Buscemi who takes them across the border to sell them and do something I guess. And then right
Misha 44:59
I don't know. understand why he's Oh toxic masculine or fragile ego Yeah, that's nobody understands that given enough praise he's not know the thing is he was probably given plenty of praise, but not compensated enough. I don't know like Dennis Nidri has to go and fuck everything up. Because yeah we just as a baby fragile toddler ego and can't handle just normal interactions without having his icky Dicky lucky. I don't know. Yeah,
Tyler 45:31
it's a lot of that it's like sort of too many people reading the fountainhead or whatever. And I'm Rand like, no one understands my genius. Hercules would have been a horrible person if he were smarter, but he's too dumb to be bad. So he's just a fucking bimbo. But yeah, but that whole like, yeah, you're special. nobody appreciates me. I'm special. Like, I've got visions. I can I can yodel.
Misha 45:56
A nice guy. Oh, people don't realize I'm a nice guy. So I'll just be bad. And be a dick. To prove that I'm a I'm like good at this thing. Or that I'm a good person or I have value so I'll turn into a villain. Go fuck yourself. Snip snip. Go.
Tyler 46:18
So yeah, I mean, he's a bad he's like in the in the rogues gallery of Disney. He is near the bottom. He's not great.
Misha 46:26
Yes, but, but but the auto like, brings him yodeling
Tyler 46:29
brings him up at one point. So he goes up. I mean, like maybe to like, from A to two or three or like, Oh, something like that. Like that's, he's really that great.
Misha 46:38
Like not his motivations are just really bad. And he's boring. Yeah. All right. All right.
Tyler 46:45
And he's two three reminiscent of like, an old like a chunkier customer. I used to they they model them too much on like, customers look, and he's like, that's no good.
Misha 46:56
Right? It's like kind of Yeah. All right. I think I'd love that Yoda. Like.
Tyler 47:03
If this movie were just that for two hours, that scene.
Misha 47:08
Just okay. Those who do not watch this movie, just go to YouTube. Look for Home on the Range, yodeling scene and you'll find it. It's weird. Get high if that's your thing and do that. Hey, that sounds great.
Tyler 47:23
Happy birthday. If that's your thing, do
Misha 47:25
it up. Should I bust out some Earth Day fact?
Tyler 47:30
Crinkle TIMCO crinkle teen co it's an Earth Day.
Misha 47:36
Who's the xylophone?
Tyler 47:37
So
Misha 47:38
Grace. Grace would enjoy this. Oh, she might not enjoy what I'm about to say. But she like would probably like Earth Day.
Tyler 47:46
Oh, yeah. She had a little bit of like the hippie like Pilates hippie. Yeah, wage like into God vibe. Mm
Misha 47:55
hmm. Crystals crystals. Yeah. Power. Macro. May is the Oh, is it? Okay. Oh, yeah. There's a huge now the Venn diagram of that includes macro May. Happy Earth Day Taylor.
Tyler 48:16
Happy Earth Day, Misha.
Misha 48:18
Let's talk about cows and cattle and their impact on the earth.
Tyler 48:25
Oh, yes. Let's, but let's keep it brief because it's a depressing and B. We got to keep moving. But
Misha 48:32
okay. Yes. Moving. Cows and other farm animals produce about 14.5% of human induced climate emissions. That is a fuck ton of climate 14.5% of all emissions. That's terrible. That's a lot. That's a lot. So the largest use of land in the United States goes to cattle and cow pasture. So 654 million acres goes to just housing, like where the cows are. And then 12 I'm sorry. 127 point 4 million acres goes to just their feed. So a total of 781 point 4 million acres goes to just the production of cattle. Yeah, folks, just fucking stop eating hamburgers all the fucking time. Okay. That's it. This is outrageous. it's Earth Day. Just stop being selfish pricks. Okay. PPP people. People prefer
Tyler 49:45
protein, PPP, PPP. PPP people prefer animal protein sometimes. But yeah, you're right if people just switch from it like yeah, big changes, big change. Okay.
Misha 49:58
insane how many how much animal meat people today eat which isn't historically what humans have been eating anyway. Neat word
Tyler 50:07
on the street is that eat the
Misha 50:13
seed. gonna wrap a beat headsman it's
Tyler 50:17
the the triplets, the nephews who are, can we? There's so yeah, they're so dumb. Like really unfunny. Yeah. It's fine to be like a, like the, for example, like we're gonna get to it later, but in Emperor's New Groove, the henchman is an idiot. But he's like a likable dumb idiot. And even you might even do like, Hercules has its merits, I suppose. But these guys are so dumb. They don't even record like their uncle is like putting glasses on and they suddenly don't recognize them like they
Misha 50:50
haven't broken.
Tyler 50:54
No object permanence and whatever. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, it's
Misha 50:57
just too much.
Tyler 50:59
And they're just not funny. They're stupid.
Misha 51:01
They don't add anything. The only good henchmen?
Tyler 51:05
Yeah, the only good henchmen is the bison bodyguard. He was cool. Like
Misha 51:09
I love the bison, but I Is he a henchman or just known servitude? I
Tyler 51:14
don't want I don't want to lump him in that category. Yeah, he's uh, but he was I just want to give a shout out. He's
Misha 51:19
held captive instead of being wild wild bison. And yeah, and
Tyler 51:23
later he shows up with two very horny Longhorns to like hit a hit on
Misha 51:27
this is where it's gonna be talking about this and doesn't sit right category and how mad I was.
Tyler 51:34
Why did they add that? Why?
Misha 51:37
Because it was men who made this movie. Yeah. And they think it's funny and Okay, anyway, actually
Tyler 51:43
one for the speaking of which one for the henchmen Speaking of which, because we kind of breezed by the whole Buck storyline was really unneeded, I think, like
Misha 51:51
no, not needed at all. I don't know why I liked
Tyler 51:55
that. He was like a dick. And then at the end, he like helped didn't realize he was being a dick and like that the true heroes weren't his idol but
Misha 52:05
really do anything. either. He helps with his
Tyler 52:07
karate trap or shit that he was doing. He was doing.
Misha 52:11
But they were helping themselves they would have they got out on their own. Yeah. Of the train in like, and they could have beaten everybody up because they were good at that. Yeah.
Tyler 52:20
I think he was totally unneeded. Like there was a lot of extra Cooper Gooding Jr.
Misha 52:27
Maybe that's why was he like?
Tyler 52:30
When did Jerry Maguire come out? Like 98 I don't know.
Misha 52:35
96 So that's what was he's coasting. That's a lot later coasting.
Tyler 52:40
Yeah, also hits people. Just got just pled guilty. He's hitting a woman but anyway,
Misha 52:48
didn't Oh, my fucking God. Cut their dicks off. I'm okay.
Tyler 52:55
Okay, strong female.
Misha 52:57
Right. Next. Yeah, this does well, this was pretty good. I was worried. This is high up there. Because. Female farmer. She's great. Yeah, she loves her animals. She wouldn't eat them. Yeah.
Tyler 53:12
Which I really liked. That was great. Yeah.
Misha 53:16
When the chicken was like, Who
Tyler 53:18
would eat a chicken? That was good.
Misha 53:21
I love that.
Tyler 53:24
And then three comes from chicken. The three the three protagonists are all like they're all lady cat lady cows. Yeah. And they're like, pretty strong and independent, like clearly.
Misha 53:38
Just like we're gonna solve the problem. They keep going. They work together. They get out I was actually worried when they were stuck in the train car when they were caught by Steve Buscemi and the other guy that they would need rescue Kuba was going to come and rescue them. And he did it. Yes. They got out on their own. That was good thought about it. And they use strength and brains and smarts and I loved it. And this actually is really high up there. Yeah. Yeah. 10 out of 10 out of
Tyler 54:13
10 Because honestly 10 out because it's Yeah, me. Yeah, it's a 10 out of 10. checks the box that the checks Yeah. On for like we
Misha 54:22
say they catch the bad guy. Yeah, they shut up the harassing cows. Yeah, I don't like the very
Tyler 54:30
end where they like, like, let them in. To dance. Yeah, but I was kind
Misha 54:35
of hoping that they'd be like, fuck off. Yeah.
Tyler 54:39
That I mean, that's not enough to take them down a peg. But no, but
Misha 54:43
I think for strong female eight it gets a 10 Yeah, what we're talking about now will be brought up and doesn't sit right. Yeah.
Tyler 54:50
And also the fact that like, cows in a system that stacked against them, maybe that has something to do with doesn't sound right but it doesn't hurt for the story. They're, they're correct. or strength? Yep. Awesome. Yep. Okay. This is doing so much better than Hercules and it's really hurting my heart. Boy bipoc representation sighs no in general score I think is gonna move. We'll see. We'll see.
Misha 55:16
Yes, it is. Anyway bipoc representation. We got Jennifer Tilly, Jennifer Jones and Canadian. She's a lead.
Tyler 55:25
I feel like she gets she gets typecast as like ditzy people a lot I feel which is maybe unfair to her but yeah, it's her voice. I
Misha 55:33
think she gets type. Yeah, she's an interesting voice. Jennifer
Tyler 55:37
Tilly Cooper Gooding Jr. We have one of the Cowboys who's in it for like a second. Who gets like doesn't
Misha 55:44
contribute. Yeah, I don't think because we've done like,
Tyler 55:48
not the voice his. I actually I don't even know about the voice. But the character was, was a person of color. One of the three. Alameda Slim steals the Longhorns from when when, when Alameda Slim gets away, and then the Ricoh is questioning the Cowboys. You know, like when Alameda Slim gets through that narrow canyon and Rico Rico turns that the three that get their Kallistos Rico because the bounty hunter go Got it? Yeah, yeah, it goes.
Misha 56:21
Just catch up with
Tyler 56:24
one of the characters in the background is is a is a person of color. It seems the way they drew him. But that's not. Yeah, I mean, that's not enough. But I'm just saying, that's okay.
Misha 56:34
And then we have that railroad driver who's Chinese?
Tyler 56:38
Then we got the Chinese person who's got a wagon with and going somewhere with cow, a wagon. Okay. We don't see him working on a railroad. But we would assume God, we would assume that that's what that person was in town.
Misha 56:53
That's what I was thinking. Like, yeah. And it was strange. i Okay. It was a weird thing to do. Obviously, there are Chinese people in America at that time, because they were used as slave labor to make the railroads. But why did they have this care character? In this movie,
Tyler 57:17
I can only imagine that they did it as like, oh, let's do some interesting thing for like diversity. And then they didn't think about it any more than that. And they didn't really think about the ramifications of what they were doing. Because it's not. It's not like a diversity hire. It's
Misha 57:34
not a good No, it's
Tyler 57:35
it's it's
Misha 57:36
not like a good yeah, call back. Unless you're like, a sorry, on behalf of Americans.
Tyler 57:45
If anything. It's like, I don't know what the right. I don't know. It's like Uncle Tom ism, or whatever. It's like that you have the Chinese character, immigrant character saying, Oh, what a country with no hint of irony. Like,
Misha 57:55
yes, that's right. That's what it was. And I was like, waiting for maybe something else to happen. And then they're just like, oh, look, see? Yeah. And then he was in it for 10 seconds. I
Tyler 58:08
did like how they had him speaking Chinese rather than, like, do like an ancient Chinese secret. Like, when Mickey Rooney type thing
Misha 58:15
showed up. I was expecting that. Yeah. I like and he did it. And I was like, okay, that doesn't lose as many points. Yeah, it could have been like, I don't know how else to Yeah, I could have been worse. I thought it was gonna be a lot worse. Yeah.
Tyler 58:35
Yeah, that's also doesn't sit right stuff, too. But, I mean, this has two voice actors who are
Misha 58:42
one of the leads what the two main characters are people of color? Yeah.
Tyler 58:47
Two of the main characters. Yeah.
Misha 58:48
It's pretty good. Not bad. Because no, I mean, compared to the request of the Disney WiFis. It's pretty good. Yeah. I mean, they did start really having any kind of representation of non white culture or actors who are like leads for a long time. Yeah. So I don't know. What do you think about like a three? employee?
Tyler 59:14
That seems high, but yeah, sure. I mean, it's like, like,
Misha 59:17
look at Atlantis. Yeah. It's kind of the same. Yeah, exactly.
Tyler 59:21
Like, Atlantis has maybe even more representation, but then like, like, knocked down for like, caricature stereotypes. Yeah. Okay.
Misha 59:32
Do you think it should be lower like a two? I think.
Tyler 59:37
So, Hercules got a two.
Misha 59:40
For two. I think this is better.
Tyler 59:43
This is a little bit better. Yeah, I
Misha 59:45
think this is a three. Okay. All
Tyler 59:47
right. Fun Factor. This movie was fun.
Misha 59:51
It was fun. It's pretty fun. It was like, okay, and then, like the I thought it was okay. I thought it was The yodelling bumps it up.
Tyler 1:00:01
Yeah, I mean, it's not gonna win any awards, but the fact that it's only like 76 minutes really helps like yeah, this is a movie I could see like, I didn't never saw it before, but I could see I never even heard of it before we put this list together. I can see like, this movie probably did a lot better on like on Disney Channel or on video or something like this is the movie that like if it's on in the background you like kind of enjoy it. You don't go shell out the big bucks in the movie theater for it.
Misha 1:00:31
Yeah, it was fun.
Tyler 1:00:32
I mean, I if I had watched this when I was younger with my little brothers was babysitting them.
Misha 1:00:38
It probably would have gotten a couple chuckles
Tyler 1:00:43
there a couple of funny lines to the chicken thing was great. Like who eats chickens? Also, and Steve Buscemi his character says like I gave up clown college for this. I thought that was really fucking funny for some stupid reason. That's great. I liked the Patrick Warburton is in it. Even though he's barely in it. I just love him. There's a lot of weird. There's a couple of Seinfeld connections. But did you I mean, we already established this. I think I got cut. It was on the cutting room floor. But you didn't watch Seinfeld. But did you notice that the duck are the goose? Did the Elaine dance? No, but
Misha 1:01:15
I know what her dance in the in the that's like one of the most referenced yes from sign
Tyler 1:01:20
there was one aware of I don't know if it was a goose or duck but my guess is goose there was like a white goose on the farm. And when they're all dancing to Katie Lange song he did that, Elaine? It was. I like that that sort of reference is good because they don't like put it in your face. And yeah, if you see it, you see it and you chuckle like I did and then it's they don't like make a slow mo matrix reference that everyone's gonna like. Alright, why is this happening? Right. I liked I liked Patrick Warburton. Yeah. And he's I love his lovely voice. We'll see him again and Emperor's New Groove. He's great. And have fun movie. I like the bison zoning yard. Okay, great. Oh,
Misha 1:02:04
I love that bison body is great. Um, I'm thinking a six but you might be thinking higher.
Tyler 1:02:12
I think a six is perfectly fine. It's not that okay, it's not that fun. I'm just okay. I'm rubbing some sugar on this salty wound. But I thought it was well we can get into this with doesn't sit right which is coming up next. But yeah, jumped to that. Six. Yeah. So before on factor six. Yeah. Before I forget, doesn't sit right doesn't sit right. We've already brought a couple of things. But one thing I want to say before I forget because it just popped into my head. The idea of having a buffalo slash American bison, working for a guy who looks like Custer or wild or Buffalo Bill look kind of looks like Buffalo Bill with his whole getup. Like, having that creature work for a guy that looks like that is just that's really really rubbing it in, like really rubbing in like the bad history of this. I think the point, and it's not great. It's not funny at all. It's really bad. I
Misha 1:03:05
felt really bad. Yeah. And it was kind of like, when's that? Bison going to realize he shouldn't be doing this because all of the other animals sort of had this awakening to like what's right what's wrong and they never know
Tyler 1:03:22
he eventually nice, well, Alameda son goes to prison and he eventually the bison and
Misha 1:03:27
then he's just, but that's because he didn't have it like his his owner.
Tyler 1:03:31
I think also he had a crush on Miss Calloway. So he wanted to show up did show up and do some she liked her had wanted to do some scouting, if you will. Oh, Tyler. He wanted to write her. All right, let's talk about what doesn't sit right. So so that doesn't sit for a little bit like the the decimation of an animal population American history, that part of American history, the How the West Was one genocide of the native population sitting in the background, and never and obviously, they're not going to comment on it. But still, it's like, the fact that you mentioned introducing when you say How the West Was Won, in a positive way. Yeah. There's the Chinese American there the Chinese immigrant thing that is bad too. Yeah, there's because
Misha 1:04:19
you keep introducing these things like this is good. And you're like, I know what's going on here. I know what happened. This isn't good. Yeah. Also the like, so extra horny male cows the Longhorns I was really bothered by that because I don't know I get that animals non human animals are like horny, right? I get we're like biological eight Okay, and often Rachel animals, sexual animals are gonna be rapey sometimes, right? We know about ducks. We know about doorways seat all the time. You know, whatever, but like to entrance Use this weird human element to these cows being horny and not listening to No means no. Is really upsetting. Yeah. And like, annoying Yeah, that I know. Yeah. Like, yeah, we fuck like, women fucking deal with this shit all the time and it's just annoying and though it was clear that the people who made this thought it was funny yeah, and it was just unsettling and obnoxious and I wanted to like, and but they're fucking cows like that's the thing like don't make cows obnoxiously pervy, like humans are. Yeah,
Tyler 1:05:40
it's like, this is back to the Hercules thing. It's like, movies playing sex crimes as a joke. And it's like Grace, the the the grace is polite and says like, Oh, see you later friendly responses. One of them Maggie's, like, get the fuck away from us. And this cow,
Misha 1:06:00
which I'm glad they like at least showed what, you know, the, the cows, the feed three female protagonists weren't going to have it. So I like that other bite, but then they fucking show up at the end. And they're like, hi, welcome. Yeah, I'm like, What the fuck, they were just bothering you. This is we've seen this before. And we've seen this twice before. I know because we're this lab, this exact conversation twice now. And I've said we've seen this before, once before, if not more, where we've seen female characters be annoyed by male characters for sexual harassment. And then at the end, or sometime, they're like, Oh, hello. Everything's fine. Yes. Let's come. Come here and harass us. Yeah, we're fine with it. Everything's fine. Yeah. And it's like, at least the third
Tyler 1:06:50
teaching the bad lesson of like, the What's that phrase? Like? She's playing hard to get this and like, Persistence is key type bullshit. Yeah, yes. Yeah. Yeah, the Centaur is in Fantasia.
Misha 1:07:04
The fact that Phil, Phil as a second or something. This exact same thing where it's like, Oh, if you bother women enough, you wear them down? Yeah, that's what this is. And I fucking hate it. Yeah. I think it's like 10 Whoo. Good.
Tyler 1:07:23
I think so that I mean, that is really up there, obviously. And then all there are all these other little things sprinkled into that. Yeah, there's right if it weren't a negative 10 on its own for for that very troubling. So yeah, wouldn't be a negative 10. I think if they hadn't shown up at the end, come back.
Misha 1:07:40
Yeah, exactly. Because why not give us any it might have been like a negative to write. But the thing is that harassment wins in the end. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not them just saying no, no, no, no, it's a no, no, no. Oh, okay. You keep kept going? Yes. Yeah. It's really bad. And I get their cows, but it's like, you know, they're humanized. And that's not okay. Because if they were actually cows, a cow would just fucking mount her. And we'd watch them banging and boning and then a new baby calf shows up, and there wouldn't even be a fucking conversation about it anyway.
Tyler 1:08:24
Animals. Animals are crazy sometimes. Especially humans. All right. All right. Negative 10 effervescence, I think I think like, I think it's a zero. I was gonna say maybe one for the yodeling scene
Misha 1:08:40
doesn't Oh, you know what? I would give it a while because it's like Dumbo trip. Rep. Rep. And the Donald Duck is this rolling I give it up to a two for effervescent here's the thing like I was someone over with that. Yeah, like seen this
Tyler 1:08:57
movie is like this movie was. This movie is like a footnote in Disney history. No one remembers it. No one talks about it. If they do talk about it. It's like yeah, oh, remember that weird movie and then they saw it makes a YouTube video about it. Or we're talking now mediocre? But this is the type of shit that I think is when Disney is the best. And here's why. Yeah, like Disney is obviously the best one. I mean, just that scene. Well, not the whole thing. Just that's like that scene. Yeah, like where it is. It takes the risk of being weird and fun and zany because it's fun for kids but it's also for like, maybe adults to enjoy as well. And yeah, like not the full movie. But just like
Misha 1:09:38
when Disney doesn't that just the idea that somebody's yodeling to hypnotize is
Tyler 1:09:45
so great. It just harkens back to I guess it's not a dessert it harkens back to like the old cartoons were like, weird and but that's really all right. Let's
Misha 1:09:57
give it a to for effervescence. for that, it's really good. All right. Okay, ready for the total for the total? Did a lot better than Hercules it got a 43 out of a possible 110. Points. Wow, Hercules got a 30. Jesus.
Misha 1:10:14
Sorry, Tyler is now I think I do like this one a lot more more than 13 points more than I liked Hercules.
Tyler 1:10:22
I did not like Hercules. Yeah. I think if I were to rewatch one I would rewatch Hercules. But I still, I mean, there's still so many problems with Hercules that I can think
Misha 1:10:32
I'd watch. You know, you know how my brain works. I'm gonna tell you right now watch cars to
Tyler 1:10:39
cowboy. Okay. But
Misha 1:10:42
I because I erased Mater from my memory of him being Yeah. And I'm just thinking of my car cane and how it's a spy movie and that Mater's not in it.
Tyler 1:10:53
All right. Well, next up is a Pixar movie Inside Out, which I remember liking. I
Misha 1:10:59
didn't make it past five minutes, because I started crying a lot about for personal reasons. And so we'll have to, like mentally prepare myself for this emotional roll. It goes,
Tyler 1:11:12
Yeah, I might have a different take on it this time around. I mean, I remember liking it, but we're looking like remembering it. I don't remember it as fondly as I recall. So I'll have to like rewatch it and just have a new opinion, I think. Great. We'll see. Thanks, everybody for listening to this wacky, wacky, podcast. If you want to get in touch with us and tell us what you think about Home on the Range or any of the other movies. You can email us at [email protected]. Or
Misha 1:11:42
you can follow us on social media. We're on Twitter and Instagram @muchabupod. And
Tyler 1:11:49
until next time, hey I don't know how to yodel. I was trying to like try to find a way to say like, let's see you later. See you later. Yeah, do you know I mean, literally is like an art as they say in this. Yeah. All right. Bye, everybody. Bye.