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Tyler 00:00
content warning although this is a podcast about kids movies, this podcast isn't for kids and may contain content some people find offensive
Misha 00:27
Welcome to Much Abu About Nothing. We discuss rate and sometimes Duncan Disney animated films going in alphabetical order following a rigorous and scientific scoring system based on absolutely nothing. I'm Nisha, and
Tyler 00:42
I'm Tyler. And this week we are talking about 2000s. Disney's version of Waterworld because it was so expensive. Dinosaur it was apparently maybe I don't know if it still is, but at the time, it was the most expensive digital movie ever made. Oh, yeah. According to you know, I did some Wikipedia. Yeah, exactly.
Misha 01:06
IMDB. Just Google results. So the three sources who use so 2000
Tyler 01:12
was that 2000 was the end of high school or like end of junior year for me this movie completely. I missed it. It completely passed me by I don't think I really knew about it.
Misha 01:23
Ditto. I don't know what this is. Yeah.
Tyler 01:27
Well, now we do. Now we are fully aware. So we have you know, we had a good it was good while it lasted Cinderella and Coco. And now we are
Misha 01:39
you know, I when we started this podcast are
Tyler 01:46
really kind of positive. We have this like retrospective of like when we started this thing. Like I feel like every other episode okay, go sorry.
Misha 01:57
I had this idea that it would be mostly fun. Not just not the US talking part because I always have fun chatting with the Tyler. The watching of the movies I assumed would just be like, this will be easy. Like that's the easy part. And boy, boy, I am tired of watching bad movies.
Tyler 02:19
Yeah. And boring
Misha 02:20
movies. That's necessarily bad. It's just boring. Like I can watch really bad movies, and have a fun time yelling at it. Or just really, you know, whatever. But like there are so many boring movies we have to sit through. And I don't want to Yeah, and I have to. Yeah,
Tyler 02:42
yeah, we've sort of tethered ourselves to a a sinking ship that is very, very slowly sinking. Because there's so many movies
Misha 02:54
within like fog. There's like not even good scenery around. It's just foggy. We're adrift or going down. Or there's nothing we can do. Yeah. But
Tyler 03:06
for some reason. We're the captain. So we're sticking with the ship until the bitter end. But hey, again, we
Misha 03:11
came out in. In Titanic. Yeah, failed. And I just watched Titanic recently, which I was not happy about for our friend Movie Club. Right? Yeah. But then I did get excited about Theoden. Yes, he's fucking awesome. He
Tyler 03:28
is great. I've never seen Titanic still to this day. So don't I just said yes. Then nodded a lot, because I think I've seen him in a YouTube clip. But uh, yeah, I know my boy. Billy Zane is in Titanic. Yep.
Misha 03:41
Yep. He's not my boy. But
Tyler 03:45
no, he's he's your
Misha 03:47
boy. Now my boy. No. Listen if he was in The Lord of the Rings trilogy, which I'm glad he wasn't because it was perfectly cast that movie. But let's say he was then I would have gotten excited to see Billy Zane
Tyler 04:00
huh perfectly cast movie. Interesting. Yep. Be interesting. Interesting. Yeah, I'm not going to open that can of worms.
Misha 04:08
Tell me who tell me who is not perfectly cast for Lord of the Rings and I will fly over there and cut you. i
Tyler 04:20
It is perfectly I can't think of anyone that I think is a bad casting. I know that my wife has a problem with a couple. At least one
Misha 04:27
what they need to do is just keep it exactly the same. And then redo the CGI. So it looks that would be yes, it's like 20 years fucking 20 years. I get it like I get it. CGI at the time has had a long way to go to get to where we are today. 20 years, but that's it just cleaned it up a little bit. That collateral scene could have been a little less cartoony looking, but I get why you know 2001 I Get it. I get it like it was difficult to do that kind of thing. Survey casting. I stick by it speaking
Tyler 05:06
of fantasy and speaking of like, early 2000s digital movies. So this movie came out at a weird time where like, digital wasn't good yet for the most part,
Misha 05:17
and they tried to Gocco to your lender with the Lord of the
Tyler 05:21
Rings The rings came out and changed the game right like at 2000 It's still the time when like Cher did at the it's to the dinosaur came out at the time. We could talk about this with animation, obviously, but like it came at a time when like ILM was kind of like the only Industrial Light Magic like the George Lucas people. Yeah, like really the only game in town really big preamble. But speaking of fantasy, and in this movie, I was wondering if I could be for you do your summary. Give a shorter summary because here's the thought about it. Okay, fine.
Misha 05:55
Do you want to take over? No. Okay, where are you?
Tyler 05:57
Well, you can go you can go first. No, no, no, I don't want to do it and replace
Misha 06:01
- I don't need a white man to give me permission to do it fair.
Tyler 06:04
I'm asking your permission if I can do something wrong. This is this is the reason why no
Misha 06:11
you can't do anything on top. That's disgusting. Excuse me. On top I do not consent.
Tyler 06:19
Because if you if you don't watch the movie, and you just read some of the summaries Yeah, this movie could be mistaken for a fantasy movie. Or for orphaned at a young age in a land long ago. Aladar finds a new family and has to come across Kron and Bhutan and deal with these names. It's like it's like a fucking brand. really confused. The king Yes.
Misha 06:48
I was really confused about where these names came from. Yeah,
Tyler 06:53
and all the all the lemurs well, we'll get into but like their name like skronk and hotspot, and then they name their names or their dinosaur child. Aladar. Anyway, that was out that's all I wanted to do this
Misha 07:06
Steve sent me this week, which I talked about last night but then this reminded me of anyway, we're just like hobbits name their girls like Heather and gold Berry and although gold Berry is a character in northern said she's not a habit and she's something else. I don't know what she is, but a spirit but anyway, there's just like, you know, like, really cutesy Beautiful Names like rose water and then boys are like dunk but Right.
Tyler 07:40
Frodo dildo Bilbo. honkytonk. Yeah. Well, with the exception Marissa, Doc and Peregrine those beautiful.
Misha 07:49
They are married doc. Yeah. It's a pretty neat but anyway, but then they're like, nope, those are weird and too long and beautiful. We gotta go by Merry and Pippin and Pippin and Bhupen. And
Tyler 07:58
yeah, Sam really? Sam really lucked out with Sam Yeah. Bilbo son of Drogo.
Misha 08:07
No, Rogo Frodo is son of Drago Bilbo
Tyler 08:10
is togo fuck now.
Misha 08:18
Mongo
Tyler 08:19
Mongo, we use a Mongo Jerry Mongo
Misha 08:21
bingo. BINGO BINGO BINGO
Tyler 08:24
bag and Mongo Jerry.
Misha 08:28
Bongo. Okay, Bongo.
Tyler 08:30
Swamp hole Baggins.
Misha 08:34
The father of Bilbo.
Tyler 08:37
Bongo. Okay, let's get into it. Dinosaur. What is this movie about?
Misha 08:43
Sorry. Okay, are you done with your thing?
Tyler 08:48
Yeah, that was all I just wanted to point out that sounds like a fantasy novel if you don't if you don't include Yun e Guana Don orphan
Misha 08:55
okay, there's this there's this Guana down nest a car notorious shows up chases the mother the mom iguana dynaway. smashes all the eggs except one. And then that egg goes on a journey. Yeah.
Tyler 09:12
Which people apparently at the time flip their shit about and thought it was awesome. That part I thought that this part is going on way too long.
Misha 09:21
Way too long. I was like, Okay, I get what's happening. Can I like zone out a little bit because yeah, we get it like okay, so then it the egg ends up in a lemur. We'll get to this. lemur colony Yeah. Hatches the lemurs raise the iguana Dawn which did not exist together in real life.
Tyler 09:51
Nope. Neither neither did as far as I know. Actually EEG wanted to Carnotaurus is are kind of Taurus is either there was a big All right, that's super pretty much okay. Although I do respect that they picked like a South American predator rather than just putting like a T Rex in it.
Misha 10:07
But lemurs are native to Madagascar. So it's not just time it's also placed like that's another problem. Even in time
Tyler 10:17
Yeah, well, well yeah the time thing but okay, if we if we forget the fact that mammals weren't around back then
Misha 10:23
and dogs were not in Madagascar either. Yeah, but also
Tyler 10:27
this was like Gondwanaland and Laura Asia stuck together. So yeah, I forget where Madagascar would have been in comparison to like, where Venezuela would be now but anyway. Yeah, there are a lot of problems with like, where species are from and what and when they're from but a dinosaur gets adopted by a bunch of mammals.
Misha 10:50
Yep. No, we'll just say an iguana Dawn gets adopted by lemurs raised by lemurs and then a meteor or hits many oh my god Tyler just fucking get through this I swear to God I'm gonna cut all the dicks off
Tyler 11:11
oh we have so many clothes because of this movie to talk about
Misha 11:19
Okay, where was I? I wait here a meteor hits their land is destroyed they have to go they escape all the other lemurs are dead except Aladar is family they have to go find the nesting ground which is where they hope
Tyler 11:43
still exists for I don't remember do they know about the nesting ground of that but I think they just like they because how would they they're like on a different continent. Don't they just like leap like piecing out and then they run into all the other dinosaurs run
Misha 11:56
into a bunch of other dinosaurs who are going yes who are headed to the nesting ground. So they all go together. It's led by Croc and John Juncus and pumpkin ducky Krohn
Tyler 12:11
and Bruton Krypton and crew John and bro Brittani close your close yeah Caracas from usually do just clarifying this. Kronk is from Emperor's New Groove. Yeah.
Misha 12:29
Gronk of the New England Patriots and when you miss Squonk Hey, how do you feel about what do you this rule of Guang Guang I
Tyler 12:42
have CTE problems, probably. Oh,
Misha 12:44
yeah, he a CT. Poor guy. He's on my fantasy team. I don't know anything about but I like I also
Tyler 12:53
don't know anything about football Brando coming in.
Misha 12:58
I said my name is gewog and I picked her I was like logs available. Click. Okay, so gwoc and the Bruton are terrible jerks, leading the jerks. They're jerks, leading the herbivores to the promised land. And along the way, there's predators GWAC and Bhutan are told like oh no, if you're a jerk and don't are playing with the team, you're not doing the work. You're gonna get eaten. They don't get eaten, but they get killed and then ignored by the Yeah, predators. I don't know why. So maybe scavengers find them later. Long story short, the nice dinosaurs and the lemurs. Oh, make it to the Promised Land. Yeah, Ray and then it ends with really weird narration that I would like to read if I can look it up real quick. Okay, here we go. No one knows what changes big or small lie ahead. One thing is certain Our journey is not over minor spoiler alert for your dinosaurs. We can only hope that in some way. Some small way. Our time here will be remembered. Yeah.
Tyler 14:15
Hardcore Christians saying that your bones are there to test our faith. So the end Oh, yeah. And along the way Aladar like it falls in love.
Misha 14:28
Oh, he falls in love with group Gronk grew up Bronx. Bronx, Bronx. Bronx Sr. We brought a leader. Emily brought her name's Emily. Brett.
Tyler 14:39
No, just because you say Braun Braun. So no, no.
Misha 14:41
Wait, who's Julianna Margulies?
Tyler 14:46
NEERA I think is her name. Another elven sounding name NEERA. Fall
Misha 14:50
in love. Because sure, because she's
Tyler 14:54
she's a female and he's a male so of whatever they have to be touching Chloe. cuz
Misha 15:03
that's how it works Wait a second do dinosaurs have penises? I don't know how to spell penis. Yes, no penis got dinosaurs have dicks is the first thing that came up nice medium article did dinosaurs have deck
Tyler 15:23
we're asking this we're asking the important questions.
Misha 15:25
I mean chickens have decks don't they?
Tyler 15:28
I you know what off the top my head no idea.
Misha 15:31
I mean they got Chloe cuz. Oh given the absence of a penis. chickens and other land fowl have had to develop a method of fertilization that does not include penetration. Chickens don't and this Chloe conical Aika just like cars
Tyler 15:50
like cars. You know what? I always knew that we were gonna keep coming back to that movie. All right, moving on. Yeah, so we've read these movies. Thanks, everyone for being here to this absolute chaos, originality, story, animation, music and sound protagonist sidekick villain henchmen strong female lead bipoc representation slash portrayal and fun factor. Those are all given scores of one out of 10 or one to 10 rather. And then we have doesn't sit right which are some negative points. If it's like just icky, and effervescence if it's got that sort of special Disney magic, or Pixar magic or whatever. And the secret lab magic or the secret lab magic and giving it a total score out of 110 points. Now first up, we don't always go in order but why not? Let's go in order originality. So this movie is one of those movies that was in development hell for a long time and there's there's a long backstory that's maybe too much to get into. But one thing I wanted to point out was this started as like partly a Paul Verhoeven vehicle. I don't know if you've read that. I saw that. Yeah, insane that this movie would have been so much better if it was like the guy who made Robocop and Starship Troopers. And flung Starship
Misha 17:15
Troopers. I
Tyler 17:17
also hated it.
Misha 17:18
I hate it.
Tyler 17:19
I also hated it. When I watched it i i honestly just watched it straight thinking like this is a dumb movie, but then later was like, Okay, this is a you know, a satire just like Robocop was, but still I
Misha 17:30
think it's just Oh crap. I don't like Starship Troopers.
Tyler 17:34
It's still just like a bit too campy for me but um, it would have been interesting because his whole thing was like it was gonna be like this weird epic with no dialogue or whatever. And in the end, the main character was going to be a direct source at the time was going to go against the bad guy. And as they were fighting the good guy wins but then the meteor comes and it's all pointless. And that would have been awesome. That's what I thought like Disney added eyelashes and lips and songs and eyelashes. I didn't even know it and voices and then they had a gel some of them are
Misha 18:09
old old dyno jowls
Tyler 18:13
Yeah, so yeah, like it changed hands it was in development hell for a while. Some of the people that I think the person who like came up with the idea or one of the people who came up with the idea jumped ship and then was later part of the Oscar winning team behind Triassic Park. Oh, so this movie like it started in like 1989 comes out in 2000 in by the time that it comes out it is not original. So I think we should score based on what we've the end product rather than Yes. Yeah. Original idea right. So
Misha 18:44
it is not original. We've got drastic Park Land Before Time when before time. Disney died. I mean, dinosaur things?
Tyler 18:50
Yeah. That we've got the the hits that come dinosaurs, not the mama.
Misha 18:57
When did that go out?
Tyler 18:58
I think it was the 90s I remember watching it as a kid meets you. In the 90s 1991
Misha 19:06
original release. 91. Wow,
Tyler 19:10
that's older than I thought. Jeez, I'm
Misha 19:11
old. Rip Jessica Walter.
Tyler 19:14
Oh my gosh, she was in that wasn't she? Yeah. And most of the law most of the credits, but a lot of the credits is like this is kind of a lame story. And it's kind of too similar to Land Before Time. Yeah, so that's similar to Land Before Time. Except not that most of it. Well, it's like, okay, Land Before Time. Correct me if I'm wrong, because I haven't seen in a long time, but it's like protagonist is an orc is orphaned by the bad guy. Yeah. Predator. Yeah, it's a ragtag crew and goes off to the Hidden Valley or whatever it's called. It's an it's like a road movie. It's I mean, it's very similar like the skeleton is quite similar.
Misha 19:55
Yeah.
Tyler 19:57
I don't know. I don't know if I mean you It doesn't have one exact but
Misha 20:02
I think it should get two or three. I think
Tyler 20:09
three three is high. What else got a Big Hero Six gotta three.
Misha 20:13
You know why? Because Big Hero Six is literally based off of a comic. Yeah. Yeah. Little is literally based off of Chicken Little. Yeah.
Tyler 20:25
And this is not literally based on anything but it's like it's just yeah, it so
Misha 20:30
I think three is appropriate because it's not. It's not like a fresh take on old story. It's just like, they're just fucking copycats, but it's new. Yeah.
Tyler 20:42
So that kind of makes me want to give it a four because we gave bolt and Brother Bear and cars for for similar reason. Like I
Misha 20:52
think it should be left three.
Tyler 20:54
I'm fine with the three. Okay,
Misha 20:56
yep. Three. Yeah, Dory
Tyler 20:58
story. Now again, like stories really similar to Land Before Time. It's like orphan. Well has an adoptive family so not an orphan. Like like little foot. Yeah, it's just like, Okay, so he's, he's a fish out of water. He's
Misha 21:15
not though, because what ends up happening very quickly is that the lemurs are fishes. Yeah, that's
Tyler 21:21
true. Yeah.
Misha 21:22
Yeah, out of water. Even though it's just fish. The lemurs are fish out of water. Because he is we're in Miss dinosaur herbivore misfits.
Tyler 21:33
And he like fits in quite quite well, too. So it's not really a fish out of Yeah.
Misha 21:36
Which is kind of like they blew that whole opportunity. where let's say they were culturally different. Because they're just different, like right lemurs. And all of the herbivores or let's just say, all of the iguana dons, let's say they're culturally different. They could have had more of that throughout it, where it was like, This is what we eat. And this is what we do. And this is how we do things. They didn't have any of that. It was just like, Oh, hey, I'm also an iguana, Don.
Tyler 22:05
Jeff, there's like the story is there Yeah, it's
Misha 22:10
like, set it up to be interesting. And then they just like, forget it. Yeah.
Tyler 22:14
meteor hits, meet other dinosaurs travel. Like, like one dimensional bad guy on our backs. rivalry between the leader cron, and our hero kind of Aladar. And then it like, yeah, they're all just trying to get to this. This breeding ground right?
Misha 22:37
It's like you don't care. Okay, you're going to this place. It's like the story is that I'm trying to get to this place and like nothing
Tyler 22:44
interesting happened faster than I expected to short. And it's like nothing really like all the parts that are supposed to be climactic moments don't really like hit like, yeah, characters die and like people are in danger, but it's like people Movie Dinosaurs are in danger and in lemurs in danger mostly dinosaurs and it's like I don't know it just it just plotted along and didn't really didn't really like I don't know it didn't really like have ups and downs it just kind of like Yeah, cuz kind of was like a plateau the whole time.
Misha 23:22
There was one part that I thought oh, this is a little bit intense when the camping no the Carnotaurus is going after drugs drink drunk blanc blanc Blanc, Blanc. Brugg. Don't Don't which
Tyler 23:41
one, the leader or the second in command guy leader. Cron.
Misha 23:47
Cron. Yeah, what I said like the Oakland news
Tyler 23:49
station. I think it's Oakland.
Misha 23:52
That is Ah, yes. At the end, when Cron is climbing up to get over into the promised land. And then the Karnataka shows up and is going after him. So it was a little bit like I was like, Okay, this is holding my
Tyler 24:14
Yeah, but we don't care about that character.
Misha 24:16
No, because they teach us the lesson that if you're a jerk, you deserve to be killed.
Tyler 24:21
We really don't like yeah, the Aladar and NEERA by this point, probably secretly boning but they haven't shown it on camera because because it'll just but there's zero chemistry but anyway. Yeah, they're racing to they that was right after. Like the current the current on Carnotaurus or Karna. Tourists everyone pronounce it? Corners. Everybody in Krons. Like Ron, let's go out already. Cool. Awesome. And then Aladar is like no, we've got to like stand up together and that word But then the the carnivores just like alright, well fuck you guys I'm gonna go after that guy that you just left alone and then goes after CrossTie
Misha 25:06
together don't leave the group
Tyler 25:10
yeah and
Misha 25:10
Gronk is like but I'm on my own thing. Fuck all of you I'm climbing over I don't want to be told what to do because toxic masculinity
Tyler 25:21
and it gets eat so when he yeah so then when he gets like oh he doesn't
Misha 25:26
die I will say I was kind of upset when that Karna Carnotaurus died because Gronk died, didn't get in. Carnivores died didn't get a meal. We don't know that she didn't have children that the carnivores was trying to feed little baby carnivores like if they just assumed they said
Tyler 25:53
here okay to I have two possible answers that one no children because it was like the carnivore duo coming up like following them for days and like they would have because they knew as far as I know those eggs it was part of her so leave there waiting to be
Misha 26:08
lane.
Tyler 26:11
Maybe he might use my other thought that I
Misha 26:16
knew you were loved. They just wanted to eat and make a family
Tyler 26:18
or the other one was like the teenage daughter or son and the mother was going after for like going for revenge like Jaws three stuff and for whom. Like because one of the carnivores dies when Bruton pulls a Gandalf fly, you fools and takes the roof down. And one of the carnivores dies. There's a cave scene in the corner. Everybody who's sleeping in the cave. Bhutan named Bhutan. He's like you guys go well hold them off. Fly you fools and sacrifices himself. One of the bad dinosaur dinosaurs.
Misha 26:55
Oh Lord of the Rings
Tyler 26:59
as you put it into my head, sorry. Actually, that's not true. That's a complete lie. I wrote down to fly you fools in my notes.
Misha 27:08
So good.
Tyler 27:10
It's yeah, back to what you said though. I didn't. I was like, I don't feel for this character. I don't feel for the Karna tour. I don't feel
Misha 27:17
that's what I'm saying. I feel for just the same level of sadness, which is not much for any of these dumb fucks
Tyler 27:28
the only one I felt sad for was the old sassy della resort.
Misha 27:33
The Triceratops not a triceratops. She was director
Tyler 27:37
Soros Yeah. She's like when she gets to the lake and it's not a lake and she just kind of gives up I felt I got sad there I was.
Misha 27:45
Yeah, me too. Me too. Del Reese. Yeah, Delray. Awesome. She's awesome. I did like Della Reese the most even though they gave her fucking shower.
Tyler 27:56
They gave her like kind of nothing to do but be snarky. Yeah. The jealous? Yeah, and then also the Brachiosaurus the like other elderly character. Yeah, she was like, she was kind of boring. So one note.
Misha 28:12
Would you like to come in for some tea? I have to put it on my crocheted coasters. Oh, oh, would you look for sure. I do love shortbread cookies. shortbread cookies.
Tyler 28:22
Another like there. Okay, well, we'll get into this later with like the voice acting but like another just like criminally like underused talent here but anyway. Yeah, so story. Don't want to jump ahead to other things. It's boring. The story's really boring. It's it's derivative. It's it's just not
Misha 28:47
Is this a stinker? This is a stank. Yeah, this
Tyler 28:50
is a stinker. I think this is a stinker. No, is
Misha 28:54
that what this is? Like giving it a one isn't there's no isn't there some like cut this out if you want or keep it? I don't care. Isn't there some like sixth thing with fingers where you call it a stinker. And you stick it in the butt? shockers
Tyler 29:11
got to in the pink one in the stink.
Misha 29:15
Eye not friends with you anymore. I'm definitely not friends with you anymore.
Tyler 29:21
This is getting a stinker. Okay, we are at the Okay, the big category for this one. Although this it might not take too long to talk about. Because it's I hesitate to predict but not a very controversial decision we have to make here I think. But we'll see. Animation anyway. long winded preamble once again. This is the animation category. So why? For those who haven't seen this? Why am I talking so much about this being the category because Disney pumped almost $200 million into this movie to make a digital movie that's also live action. Yes.
Misha 29:59
that I didn't know and I was like this the scenery is really realistic for do 1000 I don't understand so of course I looked it up because I was like how did they do that? Oh they just fucking what?
Tyler 30:19
So when yeah
Misha 30:21
an entire so this is one of the this is I think so far and maybe the only movie that we do that's both live action and animated because technically I should never have had to watch this movie. Yeah we did better off not watching
Tyler 30:40
this so we did strike okay so my friend Bentley shout shout out to Bentley ViSalus Langley, he's a good friend of mine. He lives in Istanbul. I heard of him. He's a fan of the show. Shout out differently. Let
Misha 30:53
me tell you I've been friends with Taylor a long time. Never heard your name before. If that upsets him, or her who's Bentley? Or them? How do they identify?
Tyler 31:04
He? Okay, so anyway, Bentley has been on my on my stinker from the beginning saying When are you getting to Bedknobs and Broomsticks? Why didn't you do Bedknobs and Broomsticks? Oh,
Misha 31:14
I have news.
Tyler 31:17
For you. Yeah. And I told him like, look, we had to make some deceit hard decisions. Because there were like so many movies that we had to like, cut out Mary Poppins and Bedknobs and Broomsticks. But then somehow this one slipped through our fingers. Yeah, God, we could have we could have cut this movie on a technicality, because we did. Yeah. Because it's live action with like dinosaurs and lemurs that are digitally done. Now, okay. So so yeah, so I was gonna say, when someone falls into water, it's clearly someone dropping a big boulder. So the flash that they put the dice are in
Misha 31:52
that so I looked it up at the beginning because it was like, this seems too good compared to everything yet like to the dinosaurs and whatever else. And then I looked it up and I was like, okay, and then yeah, we get to the water. And I'm like, yep, that's just water.
Tyler 32:07
So they and they went to that's probably another thing that went into the budget. They went to like Venezuela and got like Angel Falls in the tip wheeze and they went to like Samoa I read and like Hawaii, I want to say too, because they have like the Jurassic Park. Ending. Yep. So they spent a lot of money on like, site set locations and things like that. Okay, so here's the thing. It looks like fucking garbage. But reading reviews of the time said it was great for the times. Okay, I
Misha 32:42
will say some parts looked really good of the dinosaurs. Sometimes I thought it looked good. Sometimes. like garbage. Some of their skin. I mean, they made bad decisions. But I thought the dinosaurs up close. They say it looked good. I don't think it's as bad. I don't think it's as bad as you think it is. I think the majority of time. Okay, I think a lot of the time maybe not majority. The dinosaurs looked good. The lemurs looked like shit. Just yeah, you know what murder every single lemur right at the beginning. All of them get eaten. And then Aladar is a lemur
Tyler 33:34
culture he identifies as a cultural lemur.
Misha 33:37
And, and then because he's so different, be culturally, he has a hard time fitting in
Tyler 33:44
like perfect strangers. I also love it.
Misha 33:52
I think that would make a better Yeah, so we don't have to look at the lemur. You're right where he's like doing LeeMarie things and the other herbivores and iguana nouns are like what the fuck is that?
Tyler 34:03
Yeah, I Okay, I will I agree with you I didn't I thought it looked bad when I watched it but I in hindsight I agree with you I thought it looks pretty good dinosaurs looked okay.
Misha 34:15
What it was when they like had the zoomed out shots Yeah, every dinosaur look like shit like they just sort of we don't have to care what this looks like the group when it was a group shot
Tyler 34:26
I think that was just a limitation of technology because like that's bullshit
Misha 34:30
because if you're up close you could make good animation but and yeah, it's no it's just rushing I
Tyler 34:36
don't know I need to go back and watch like Jurassic Park to Jurassic Park came out seven years earlier but I
Misha 34:41
remembered being used a lot of physical effects yeah but and made animatronics they
Tyler 34:46
used a lot of digital data but I'm not gonna just let me well let me finish. They use a lot of digital for example when the Brachiosaurus they first show it that's all digital. When they show like the wide set it Looks okay does it compare to that by watching all the time it holds up okay like the T Rex holds up because the T Rex they did it like animatronic Lee so well and like with the lighting they they save themselves whenever the T Rex Brown
Misha 35:15
when they first I think the Velociraptor versus
Tyler 35:18
TRX fight I remember doesn't hold up so well in fact there's even like there's a missing frame where there's like a missing Velociraptor which is kind of interesting but it's like blinking you miss it.
Misha 35:29
Which is interesting. We're not friends anymore.
Tyler 35:32
I still love the movie. I'm just saying there's a missing Velociraptor like in the fight with the TRX
Misha 35:36
Okay, back to what I was gonna say the same Velociraptor I
Tyler 35:39
liked how they used more like correct looking velociraptors in this movie because last Raptors were actually smaller, smaller. Although they still made them like a pack Hunter going after a bigger creature which they were too small to do that anyway. Too much. Kid Tyler pedantic dinosaur lover, Dennis for lover gross. Anyway,
Misha 36:01
you gotta close Aika unfortunately, interested? Unfortunate, unfortunately.
Tyler 36:08
was gonna say, Okay, here's my thinking about the dinosaurs. I think the best looking one, okay, my big problem with the digital thing is just, it's like looking back. Like from today. It's like it looks bad for today. But that's not fair. Because it doesn't use like substance
Misha 36:22
bad for today, though. Shots of their skin, it didn't
Tyler 36:26
do bad. Okay, the up close shots of their skin is like not enough to sell the movie, you need to like, see the dinosaurs doing
Misha 36:33
stuff saying it's getting a 10 out of 10. I'm not even saying he's getting an eight out of 10. I'm not even saying it's getting a seven out of 10. I'm just saying there were some parts that were really good.
Tyler 36:43
I don't think they were really good. They were maybe good for the time that says Best as good as I will get because this is not look really good. But at the time to design maybe. And also it's like, I don't know what the right to animation digital effects term is. But like, maybe it's because there's no like subsurface scattering, it's just you can see the dot where the dinosaur is in Word. where the background is, you know, it just they look, it's because it's live action, they look plopped in, whereas that doesn't happen now, do you know you know what I mean by subsurface scattering, I don't know if that's the right thing what you mean by step. It's like when you hold your know what you mean, I could be wrong. But it's like for exam when you hold your finger up to the light you can see light through parts of your skin. And that like that when you see like a character lit by real lighting, like it looks more naturalistic in, because digital effects now can pull stuff like that off. And like the way that like in this movie, too. Like a lot of the dinosaurs when they're like, lit by stuff, they look wrong, like when they're wet, and then there's light on them. They look bad because they just couldn't pull off like how light
Misha 37:49
was actually supposed to work up surface scatter. Yeah,
Tyler 37:53
so that's one problem. But that's I can't blame the movie for that because I don't think they could do that yet. Here's my bigger issue of effects. Otherwise, I'm like, totally fine with just going with what you think because I think you're mostly right. My bigger bone to pick is the dinosaur that looks the best. The dinosaurs that look the best are the carnivores because they don't make them look like characters. They just looked like dinosaurs.
Misha 38:19
When they start smirking and have like, ah, like the I put
Tyler 38:24
these eyes in the lips when they give them like Disney weird faces. That's when all the dinosaurs look wrong. Yeah. And that's the problem because it's mostly close up some of these dinosaurs talking
Misha 38:39
at the beginning, because I thought it wasn't going to be they set it up where it's not going to be a movie about talking dinosaur. Yeah.
Tyler 38:51
And that did you feel that way? That's what a lot of people thought to because they showed that beginning and then
Misha 38:56
all of a sudden, these lemurs start talking and it's shocking, so and upsetting like we're
Tyler 39:05
going back and reading reviews from that time it's funny because they're like, like some movie came out whatever came out in like 1999 Tarzan or something came out and the beginning was a preview they showed the beginning where like just the eggs journey you know with like, just music and there's no no dialogue and people are like, whoa, this could be interesting. This is like a different take for Disney. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, and then like, and then they see this movie weird. Yeah.
Misha 39:33
Yeah, the lips.
Tyler 39:34
I think the animation is is I I don't want to give it as low of a score like as I want.
Misha 39:42
I just realized the main dinosaur Aladar looks like Ted Danson. Yeah, I just show you this
Tyler 39:56
picture. I've got a couple of screen I've got a screenshot to share too. for social media of the old grandpa lemur looking like
Misha 40:04
Ted Danson, I'm really good at this game. I can tell when I see somebody who they resemble his mouth is Ted Danson his mouth. Oh, yeah. That's Ted Danson.
Tyler 40:19
Yeah. Yeah. Like yeah, like like a cheers era. Ted Danson, ya know,
Misha 40:25
even now it's his mouth here. I'm going to show you this. So you can see it.
Tyler 40:30
Yeah, same mouth. Yeah, right. Awful.
Misha 40:34
I'm good at that. We're
Tyler 40:36
good at this that I would never have. I mean, I would have never made these
Misha 40:40
things happen to me. I see. I am I care. Okay. I can't remember if I've ever met a person or not. But if I see somebody I know who they look like this is
Tyler 40:53
like the they could make like a nice crime TV show about you like you're the next weird mentalist. Who's like
Misha 41:00
can't remember who they are. If they're like, Oh, you just had lunch with this person? I'd go I've never met this person my life but how do you know that who they were and that they looked like this other person.
Tyler 41:09
This blood splatter looks like Kevin Costner arrest him. Wait, what arrest too costly? He did it? I think okay, so, okay, we need I need to be nicer than I want to be for this because of like, the time it came out. I
Misha 41:28
think you need to be nicer because I didn't just like as bad as 90%
Tyler 41:31
of them. So but 90% of the movies like close ups of like the gross faces of these creatures, and the faces of them like this, the skin and the parts that look good aren't in it enough to like, sell it. But I want to give it some points for like groundbreaking at the time for not like doing stuff that maybe ILM could have done better. But trying and giving it a shot. wasting a bunch of money to try to make a movie that was a groundbreaking film. And like, I liked the big swing. I liked that they took a big swing and it didn't work for them. But it
Misha 42:04
didn't take a big swing though with the story because it just sucks.
Tyler 42:09
No, not with the story with the with the with the effects. They took a big swing. What this looks like. Yeah. You know, and that wasn't a new idea. Like Who Framed Roger Rabbit? It's like 2d or animation inside a real world. And probably that looks better to be honest. I haven't seen it in a while but I don't know what somewhere in the middle like four or five you know to try to give it a give it a bone but not think of five is too much of them. Yeah, yeah. I can't believe we're giving this movie a fight.
Misha 42:40
i You're right. I don't know.
Tyler 42:45
I agree with the parts that you say that are good, but it's just that there's not enough of that in the bad is there just really glaring even props for trying at the end. 2000. But like Jurassic Park came out seven years ago earlier, and it looks so much better. But
Misha 43:00
this is different because it's a kid's cartoon movie, kind of, you know what I mean? Like?
Tyler 43:06
Yeah, and when they don't go the kids cartoon, why would the carnivores it looks not horrible, I think. But anyway, I think maybe five? I can't give it a six. I can't give it higher than a five. I just feel like it doesn't deserve it.
Misha 43:21
I think I don't think it deserves a six either.
Tyler 43:23
I mean, I'm willing to go lower. If that's where you're thinking. No, I
Misha 43:26
don't think it's as bad as you think. Although it feels like they should lose a point for fucking cheating and doing this live action bullshit. But that's not. That's like for our podcast. It's cheating. Like, we can't include any of the scenery. We can't include it. Yeah, that was part of the stuff that looked nice. Yeah, so maybe it should go down. I mean, I know. I think the dinosaurs didn't look as bad as you think. Yeah. And
Tyler 43:51
I think they look bad, but I'm fine. Bumping what I want to give it up a little bit to compromise. So yeah. Okay. All right. Music and sound. I thought maybe this isn't surprising. I thought the music was great. It's
Misha 44:07
one song stuck out to me as not okay. Which one? It sounded like they were taking, like, you're like, This isn't? Like, I don't want to say, Oh, we called up for races, but it sounded like they were doing like an apple.
Tyler 44:22
Yeah, there was one song that was like, like, and
Misha 44:24
I was like, This doesn't make any sense. Because where does what what? Why?
Tyler 44:29
Okay. And yeah, I agree that that song wasn't great. There were two songs that were to, quote unquote, tribal or whatever a white like a white composer would call them like, yeah, these songs conjure an era of timelessness and a tough simpler time before civilization and that's like, that's like 19th century anthropology. Racism. Yeah, exactly.
Misha 44:52
Right. So which it I thought was insane. Because I was like, no This Yeah, marks a very specific time of human but
Tyler 45:04
it's also just it's not a time thing. It's like when we get into this thing like that, like certain music is
Misha 45:09
like that's the wrong time and place Yeah.
Tyler 45:13
And also I just have a huge problem with like saying that this music is of from a different time because I've that's super racist. So, okay, aside from those two songs though, I think, first of all this this, this composer is very talented and he's done a lot of great movies. I think most of the music is it's too good for the movie though. It's like cinematic, and scary. It heightens the tension when it should it during the meteor storm, the music is really great. I thought, yeah, I thought the music was really good. I do want to take points off of those songs you mentioned. I also want to take points off for the fact that they got Kate Bush to do a song and then they tried to get her to change it. And she refused. So then they didn't use the song. So I want to take some points off for they could have had a sweet like that theory. Okay, Shawn, we can't. All right. Okay.
Misha 46:03
Sorry, that sets a precedent that we can't have on our show. Yeah,
Tyler 46:06
I know. I just wanted to include this in the conversation,
Misha 46:11
but we can't take points off for that time. All
Tyler 46:14
right. Okay, so in that case, like those two songs assigned, and the ending, like credit song two now I can't remember it's all a blur. I thought most of the music was pretty solid. And like better than the movie. Like the the story deserved
Misha 46:30
- So like, what? A six.
Tyler 46:34
I thought even like seven. I thought it was pretty good.
Misha 46:38
I thought it was like, I think it goes it is a seven and then it goes down to a six. That's what I think.
Tyler 46:46
Yeah. Okay, that's fair, because it's not on a Cinderella eight level and then goes down to a seven. Okay, yeah, I'm fine with that. Yeah, that works for me. Yeah, I really hate when they're just like, oh, we need like something that harkens back to an earlier time. So let's put some some African music in here or some like it's, it's just really bad, I think. Yeah. Yeah. But the guy's done so many good movies like The guy is like, prolific as hell. Anyway, protagonist Aladar The Brave and the friendly. Boring, boring.
Misha 47:19
Boring.
Tyler 47:20
He is just so OneNote It's so boring. There's like no one in this movie has anything to do. It's like sassy old person. Every person is one love interest. Horny sex pest lemur. Which we'll get to like, old timey grandfather like we've got all these like, these
Misha 47:39
love is just so well. No and boring. Yeah, caricatures.
Tyler 47:43
I think. I mean, I maybe we should get oh the road. Yeah, I was gonna say something similar. Like, he just he doesn't change at all. He's not bad. He's just so boring. Isn't
Misha 47:55
learning anything? Yeah, this is a boring, boring. The only
Tyler 47:59
thing going for him is he's like caring and helpful. But he is the whole time. Yeah, exactly. But I mean, there's no that gets him somewhere in the middle and that and that's
Misha 48:09
right. So he's on the good side of boring is.
Tyler 48:12
I think what you said I think five is perfect. I'm just kind of explaining for the people that didn't see the movie and trying to Yeah, okay, so we have sidekick side kicks. We've got ima the old slow, slow Styracosaurus who is voiced by Della Reese. And like, maybe the most possibly the most enjoyable character but still given like yeah, thing to do. We've got baleen. Who's the bread? The old breakfast horses are employed British
Misha 48:41
Yeah. Fucking whale. I don't know. Okay.
Tyler 48:44
I don't know. Voice by Joan plow. Right. Awkward last name. Wife of Sir Laurence Olivier. As far as I remember. She's like a clap. Yeah. A star of boards that golden age if there's a great picture on Wikipedia of her with Angela Lansbury. When they're both on stage on stage together, it's really great picture.
Misha 49:09
There's serie
Tyler 49:10
the youngest lemur voice by Hayden Pena Thierry, who also did princess.in A Bug's Life. There's Alfre Woodard who is in such hit movies as Star Trek First Contact. Also in Luke Cage and so many great things she's she's a very good actress. Playing plio the wise matriarch lemur, there's Ozzie Davis playing the grandpa lemur. There's so many side
Misha 49:39
kicks like Yeah, and like oh star studded
Tyler 49:45
Yeah, under Yeah, like underused and like, oh and sorry, I'm forgetting I'm forgetting the worst one. Xeni the, the horny, like lemur. The one that's like the ugly Learn the ugly looks like the looks like the sloth from Ice Age mixed with like a coked out Woody Allen covered if Woody Allen like to sorry to borrow a line from Coco if Woody Allen just like rolled around in a barbershop like they put him in a movie. Oh, he's so gross. That characters disgusting.
Misha 50:22
Yeah. They're okay. The thing is, every visual borns movie is like on the boring side of okay. Yeah.
Tyler 50:34
Yeah, it's like, I don't know, just give them like he's mediocre. Cut the amount cut the number of people that have like, things to talk about and cut it down to half and then give them something more interesting to talk about. Yeah, it's just like they're all there. It's like they're all there but they have nothing to do except be the one that needs help be the one that's like the polite one be the the one that's old and it has bunions or whatever. And it's like, there's just too much like too much of nothing. Really nothing. I
Misha 51:04
would say either a four or five.
Tyler 51:07
I don't want to say four. I want to hurt I want to hurt this a little bit just because it's like so much like, just have like Della Reese and Alfre Woodard character like the two matriarchs, the two kindly older female characters, just have them, like, refund with each other and like also providing support for this young and then make Aladar more, I don't know, more
Misha 51:32
conflicted or? Yeah,
Tyler 51:35
like you said, like, complicated because of his identity or make him like,
Misha 51:39
it was like the whole lamer thing was pointless. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and totally pointless. I thought there would be a point where maybe the lemurs were in trouble and he had to decide between herbivores and lemurs, right, like the other dinosaurs and lemurs something Yeah, right. Like where he had to go off where it was like, Oh, we're going to go live in lemur paradise. Oh, we're going to go live and die. No paradise with all the iguana dads need to choose between lady iguana, Dawn and family? Like, I don't fucking know. Give us something. What was the point? Ah, yeah, everybody was more. Yeah, like,
Tyler 52:20
just as a really quick comparison, but look at like, the side kicks and Bambi. It's like, they don't have a lot to do except be there and be supportive. But they they're interesting. They've got their like, Quirk. And but then like, yeah, ultimately, it comes to like, they all grow and there's a conflict between them, they go off and get twitterpated so there's like more in Bambi the movie that this movie was looking to as like, let's remake capture that naturalistic wonder of Bambi and for our listeners,
Misha 52:48
that's the sound of mammals doing it the
Tyler 52:54
if they could see the finger motion you just made chef's kiss
Misha 53:04
using that, so yeah, I
Tyler 53:06
did it on purpose to gross you up. So yeah, I think four is good for sidekick villain now Okay, do we go with the Okay, there are two options for villain here carnivores it's yeah, it's crawling the the antagonists the leader of the the herds that is a total dickwad or it's the two carnivores that are constantly hunting them. I think maybe we need to put them both like they're in say villains because they're the movie makes them both the villains. And we're supposed to feel bad when cron dies in the end, but we don't because he's a fucking cock squeeze. So I don't know they're all the carnivores thing
Misha 53:45
are a good thing.
Tyler 53:48
In my thinking, and aka I didn't think before I started speaking you're squeezing too hard and it hurts so it's not good. I don't know. She's a big bowl addict chatter How about that?
Misha 54:00
That's disgusting. By
Tyler 54:06
the carnivores are do they have digs? Okay, I
Misha 54:09
gotta look this up. They're cool because
Tyler 54:10
they will we don't know if they're like, like you said a mom and like, like, we don't know their their situation, but I think they're cool just because they look cool. And they they're like one of the least bad looking things in the movie. But they're again boring. They're just like sharp too thin. And Land Before Time like no personality just a menace. Sharp to that leases like scary. Yeah. And Chronos is really boring. And
Misha 54:44
hurry up.
Tyler 54:45
Did you look to see who does the voice for Cron.
Misha 54:48
I looked up everybody but I don't remember. I
Tyler 54:51
didn't notice this and I had to look it up. I wouldn't have known Samuel right. Who also did the voice for Sebastian and Little Mermaid. Yeah, very different care. Yeah, yeah. And he I think does a good like the voice acting is good in this movie. They're just given nothing to do with their performances. Also the character who's the voice actor of Aladar is second second time he's been on the show. He was also Sitka and Brother Bear. Oh, I think this gets low, but it's like, it's like the protagonist. It's somewhere in the middle. It's just there's nothing but it's I think it's a little lower
Misha 55:25
than the side kicks because we enjoyed some of the sidekicks and we didn't even enjoy.
Tyler 55:33
Yeah, then why did we give AV Aladar? Five like he does nothing. He's just so
Misha 55:39
so then he's get a four because you should get lower because Alice is at least cute. Yeah, you should get a three we like we're too generous.
Tyler 55:49
Okay, so here's Okay. Actually, before we change that, we were voting basically just on his personality, and it's somewhat but we need to think like driving the movie like his role as protect three. But no, I was gonna that's a reason to maybe keep it a five I think because he, everything that happens. It's because he's making decisions and it's happening. Like he's helping the herd standing up to Cron. He's Yeah, I mean, it's not interesting. It's really boring. But like as a protagonist, maybe we need to give it a five or a Thor. Okay, I'm fine with a four.
Misha 56:26
Three maybe is markable. And I think that's a four. But uh, yeah,
Tyler 56:31
so if we get to three that's like we're talking this is awful stuff. Right? So that's why I think like villain is also maybe a four to four.
Misha 56:39
Everyone is just shy of mediocre henchmen. I actually think the side kicks would have done better had it not been for the gross ugly pervert. Here. They are the best part. It's
Tyler 56:54
just so hard to look at the lemurs though. Like the Yeah, that's what I mean. Grandpa is like it's awesome. He's his eyes are haunted, but certainly unsettling. I'll send you that. That screenshot. Okay, henchman. Bruton. Krypton? Yep.
Tyler 57:10
Jor bonne.
Misha 57:11
I was totally gonna get that. Yep. Bhutan. I knew it. He's really
Tyler 57:15
boring. He's like a brute who then like, has he gets he gets wrecked by the carnivores. And then
Misha 57:23
saving grace is that he sacrifices himself, but he knows he's dying anyway. Yeah.
Tyler 57:29
So he's a total dick. And he's like, Oh, the slow ones just slow us down. And then he gets injured to the point where he's the slow one and Aladar shows compassion. And so then this guy Burton's like, alright, I'll help you guys get out. And I'll just
Misha 57:42
study for against the board. Yeah, just
Tyler 57:46
nothing so boring. Yeah, strong female lead. They're not I mean, they're not they're a supportive. Like, yeah, they're a supportive matriarchal character sometimes likes Yeah, Sally stare up smooth bit, but then they have no sister near I'm trying to write but she's like, constantly belittled and ignored by her brother.
Misha 58:10
And then just lets him be a dick for the majority of the time and then once does something but not really leading any it's just like, oh, yeah, I'll join in with ya Aladar she,
Tyler 58:22
she she confronts her brother and slams into him because her brother's beating up her new boyfriend. And it's like, so this is a stinkers thinker. And there are a lot of like female characters are like I mean, you know dying like female dinosaur and lemur characters that could have had interesting things to do could have had more like you know, a lot of meat there are a lot of majors in this but
Misha 58:45
they should have had the two elderly dinosaurs step up at some point. And then like, Bitch Gronk we're putting you in your place you think you know we've been allowed around longer and then like do something cool. Yeah, didn't just mediocre Okay, well
Tyler 59:07
on the plus side bipoc representation slash portrayal there's actually like a little bit of a good news here. We've Yeah. 1234 out of the main cast.
Misha 59:24
Maybe maybe five just for you thinking the
Tyler 59:28
guy who? The guy who did the voice for the sex pass? I was wondering if he's
Misha 59:33
no he's he's well, he's Italian and
Tyler 59:35
Max because he's Vinny from Doogie Howser.
Misha 59:38
Yeah.
Tyler 59:39
Oh my fuck me. Wow,
Misha 59:42
I didn't know he was Vinnie. He is Vin. Yeah, he's a talent. He's like, okay,
Tyler 59:46
so but that's great. Like Alfre Woodard. Awesome. Della Reese, touched by an angel. She's an angel. She's an angel. Ozzie Davis, who was also the only other thing I can think of the reason was Bubba Hotep. But he's been in so many things. He's like one of those actors that I think he's passed away by this point. But he's he was in so many things. Yeah,
Misha 1:00:07
I mean, it's pretty good. Surprisingly, because, yeah, even today, if you don't have if it's like, nonhumans they'll just cast all white people. So, yeah,
Tyler 1:00:17
it's like, good representation, but it's a movie about dying.
Misha 1:00:21
Right? It's like you. Um, I think he gets pretty high up there. It's just, you know, I wouldn't say it's as good as like, Big Hero Six, because that is about Yeah, I can, right. Yeah, I think this would be a six or a seven. Okay. What is it? Um,
Tyler 1:00:45
so five was say what we've Latin. Okay. Five was a Latin. Okay, so let's give this a SEVEN then. Yeah,
Misha 1:00:52
seven. Yeah, compared to Latin. This gets a seven. Sometimes
Tyler 1:00:57
we have to look at just the petri dish. Sometimes we have to think bigger picture here. Yeah, fun factor.
Misha 1:01:04
not fine. This movie was not fun. Not fun. This was not a fun movie.
Tyler 1:01:08
It was hard to watch. I took another break watching it. I watched a little last night. I was like, I gotta go to bed. I thought about to wake up early. And this is hurting me. So I gotta go to bed.
Misha 1:01:21
It's boring. It is a boring, boring one
Tyler 1:01:25
of those movies that to be honest, I was thankful there was no like, end credit scene. I'm so tired of in credit scenes, too. And I was just like, I know there's not gonna be one of this. I'm not gonna watch the whole Yeah,
Misha 1:01:35
that's me too. So you know that.
Tyler 1:01:39
So if there's an incredible scene, like we're there, I don't know. Eating shwarma and chit and a deli or whatever, then let us know you wouldn't eat schwarmann Deli probably but anyway, let us know in the comments. Oh, you wouldn't doesn't sit right i
Misha 1:01:51
Okay. I want to take away points for that sex pest lemur. That was disgusting. The ends like at the end when they get to heaven or whatever it is.
Tyler 1:02:02
And yeah, and he's like, monkey in the middle. I showed off the two I was like, why this part? Because this? I said gross. Like audibly Yes. She was worried about make two points for that. Yeah, at least he's gross. It's just there's a lot of unsaid it's because of the the effects of the time. But if there's a lot of like, unsettling imagery, it's like, Have you watched Lawnmower Man. Just go like on YouTube. Just look up like Lawnmower Man. And like look at the graphics. It's like early 90s Bad computer graphics or like hackers, for example. You go back and watch and you're like, oh, that doesn't hold up. There are some scenes in Oh, no. Well, I didn't think you're gonna do it now.
Misha 1:02:52
Oh, god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god, Tyler.
Tyler 1:03:03
I'm so upset. Oh, boy. Well, okay. Yeah, so there are these is not as bad as that. Of course, it's not that bad. Because it's like later and there's more money pumped into it. And they got more people in there secret. Oh, my God. But it's like, it's like they throw all this money into this idea. And I was really sorry. I didn't I didn't think it was gonna be that unsettling for you. But because it's like comically bad looking at it now. But um, but anyway, um, did you see the part where it goes? Like, ah,
Misha 1:03:39
that's all I saw its brain did to my brain. It's burned into my brain. But um, what what do I do? Yeah. What do I do? How do I get rid of this? So? Yeah, so it's like,
Tyler 1:03:56
to quote another movie with dinosaurs in it. Disney was so preoccupied the mama. There were so preoccupied with whether they whether or not they could that they didn't stop the thing if they should. They should not have made this movie I think they could have used that to $2 million in a different capacity
Misha 1:04:15
to bring back Dinosaurs For real well, just into coding genome sequencing DNA
Tyler 1:04:24
DNA God great says God destroys dinosaurs God creates Man Man destroys God. Man Chris dinosaurs man makes movie about dinosaurs. It's bad. Dinosaurs eat lemur.
Misha 1:04:36
I wish I was wearing my Jurassic Park shirt right. Oh, yeah, that would have been woman inherits the one inherits here. Yeah.
Tyler 1:04:45
Okay, so minus two for doesn't sit right. Yeah, they're lemurs off.
Misha 1:04:53
effervescence 000.
Tyler 1:04:57
So this actually, we haven't seen the total yet. if this didn't do as bad as I thought it would know. So what's it gonna get? The total is 3838 Okay, so how does that stay? That's better than the cars movies.
Misha 1:05:13
Well, it's better than better than all of the cars movies Better Than Ezra. It's not better it's better than cars three it is better than carseview It's better than Atlantis and I'm shocked by that is insane. genuinely enjoy it is more enjoyable than this. Yes. Atlanta's with all of its problems. It is way more enjoyable. Yeah. And that's a shame.
Tyler 1:05:39
That's a shame.
Misha 1:05:40
I did not expect I did not expect I mean, okay, because nobody talks about oh, Disney so great. Ooh, Disney, this and that. Ooh, Disney. Right. Okay. I get like sucked up into that. Others all this shit that nobody's ever heard of. That we have.
Tyler 1:05:58
Yeah, that's the thing. I think we both expected to watch.
Misha 1:06:02
Like just a bunch of Disney classics like yeah, a bunch of Disney
Tyler 1:06:05
classics that we some of which we might not remember fondly, or we might not look at fondly anyway, but not like that's like, whoa, I'm seeing Peter Pan in a while. Wow, there's a big racist movie, that sort of thing. Yeah, we didn't expect this like detritus at the bottom of a forest is like dead. Like, it's like we didn't expect that. Or we should have. I mean, I guess we shut up because we don't do our research effort. But we've learned our lesson once again. It Chris has flown too close to the sun. Oh,
Misha 1:06:35
boy. You know what? I am excited for this next movie though.
Tyler 1:06:40
Next up is Doug's first movie. Is that gonna work?
Misha 1:06:47
What are we gonna work? It's Disney produced can't watch it.
Tyler 1:06:50
Yeah, we've talked about this before, but I forget the show.
Misha 1:06:54
You know, Doug's first movie. 9099.
Tyler 1:07:00
Okay. Yeah, so hopefully it's better. And then we've got DuckTales and we've got Dumbo, which is going to be one of those movies. That is going to be a problematic Yeah, that's what
Misha 1:07:09
I was expecting. Right. So that's kind of what I was expecting this podcast to be. Not cars, cars, cars, chickens. Dinosaur bolt, Brother Bear. Not what I expected. But, you know, I'm having fun chatting with you. Tyler was a blast. So people enjoy listening to these shenanigans. I
Tyler 1:07:34
hope so too. And if you do enjoy, please, you know, follow subscribe, leave a review all that stuff. If you want to send us an email and tell us like, Oh, I loved dinosaurs. I was a kid because I'm a weirdo. Then send us that email.
Misha 1:07:51
It better include because I'm know if you
Tyler 1:07:55
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Misha 1:08:23
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Tyler 1:08:29
and until next time, thanks everybody for listening and see you later.