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Tyler 00:00
content warning. Although this is a podcast about kids movies, this podcast isn't for kids and may contain content some people find offensive.
Misha 00:31
Welcome to Much Abu About Nothing a podcast where we discuss and write Disney animated films going in alphabetical order using a rigorous scoring system to figure out which ones suck and which ones are fine. I'm your host Misha,
Tyler 00:46
and I'm your other host Tyler and Happy Black Friday me ish. Happy Thanksgiving as well.
Misha 00:57
Happy indigenous peoples day.
Tyler 01:00
indigenous peoples day. How did you celebrate?
Misha 01:04
I am cooking like crazy because we're doing our Thanksgiving on Saturday. Hmm, gotcha. Gotcha. And yesterday, I went for a lovely hike last night and Simon and it was really nice and nobody was there. Wonderful. It just
Tyler 01:20
the best part is everyone's sitting watching the watching the pigskin get hooked around and chomping on chopping out a bunch of Turkey.
Misha 01:30
Oh, I have I have some updates. And I'm a little upset. Or corrections. That's to not have close because I was getting mixed up in my head on the spot with guano. So bats produce guano, which is the type of poop they create. And some seabirds who also have Quakers I think also make one up anyway, I was getting mixed up with guano. But certain animals mammals do have Quakers such as monotremes,
Tyler 01:58
which you taught me? Monetary, so
Misha 02:02
monotremes which includes echidnas and platypuses so they have cloacas, which is like so crazy, because it's like, they're mammals with some bird features, and the fact that they're cool. weeka is one of the bird features. It's like, bizarre, but anyway, yeah, birds have Quakers and so to monotremes Yeah, so I just didn't want to sound like a fucking idiot because I love animals. And it's important to me that I get my animal facts right. Correct. So anyway, what did we watch?
Tyler 02:35
What did we watch? We watched Cars 3 from 2017 The conclusion or is it to the Cars franchise lacking
Misha 02:45
hope? So
Tyler 02:46
there's been there's been some speculation that there might be cars for but I really hope this is the end.
Misha 02:53
To the movies he shows, right? Eventually,
Tyler 02:58
yeah. This could be a perfect like, cartoon TV show. I think like but for I don't mean
Misha 03:05
as a TV show. Yeah. But I'll tell you what.
Tyler 03:09
Against all odds. I liked this one the best.
Misha 03:14
I was I'm so glad you said that. I did too. i Okay. I mean, it's
Tyler 03:21
still awful. A lot. Yeah. Like,
Misha 03:24
why does this movie exist? Why is this so long? Yeah, yeah.
Tyler 03:30
I mean, yeah. stored. Yeah, exactly. Like
Misha 03:33
what am I doing? Do? Am I now regretting every decision I've made in my life? Yes.
Tyler 03:40
Yeah. Like podcast podcast bad idea. Friendship. Goes stretching back to college with Misha bad idea. Like everything's is a bad idea. Right? But honestly, by the end of it, I was like, you know, this is this is we'll get into it obviously with the scoring but like, this is so predictable yet. I'm enjoying I'm enjoying it so much more than the other two put together. I
Misha 04:04
won't say that I am enjoying it more. It's all relative in this cars universe. Right. There were parts I did enjoy, which is more than I can say for the other two.
Tyler 04:19
Yeah, one big thing that made me love this movie is just like a knowing it's the end. And I know we have to watch planes and all that shit later, but it's like, this is all coming to an end and I just watching the clock tick by um, like, yes, yes. I
Misha 04:32
considered getting a bottle of champagne for today's episode to like
Tyler 04:36
that would have been like that would have been like we're done. Yeah, gang. If you're just joining us, you picked an interesting one to join us with. But thank you so much for listening and for returning listeners or new listeners for those that are new. I
Misha 04:51
mean, we listened Yeah. If you've listened to cars one episode, if you've listened to cars, two episodes and you're here now listening to cards, three The episode I mean you deserve a medal. You deserve a medal because their medals for doing this
Tyler 05:08
we deserve like the broken trophy that you see in this movie from that's been scotch tape together or electrical tape together. But for those that are have forgotten or those that are new we rate these movies on different categories giving them scores of one to 10 in originality story, animation music and sound protagonist sidekick villain henchmen if there are any strong female lead bipoc representation slash portrayal and fun factor. And then we have negative points for doesn't sit right for some movies, and effervescence that special genetic wa Disney magic for some other possible movies. And those are like added 10 as well. Or negative 10 Rather than positive 10 giving us total score out of 110. And let's get into it. You wanna start with originality? Or is there a particular category you want to jump into mish?
Misha 06:03
No, let's just go in order. Yeah, let's go for it. Originality. One, it's based on two other
Tyler 06:13
two. It's based on two other movies. And it's also sort of, again, like with the with the first movie, when I was like, if you remember, I was like, this movie is like the the story behind the cars. Part of it is very
Misha 06:26
movie about this. What happens?
Tyler 06:30
What's this movie about? Yeah, we almost forgot. Yeah. Okay, go for it. What is this? What
Misha 06:34
happens to basics about cars racing. And that's it. And like the first one, not like the second one that takes place in a spy universe. And so Lightning McQueen, who is the protagonist again now in this one, which we'll get into is racing. And there are new young cars that are just faster, because he's getting old. And the whole movie is just him upset about it. And trying to beat Armie Hammer, Army hammer and army hammer cannonball.
Tyler 07:12
allege it, but sure.
Misha 07:16
I mean, okay.
Tyler 07:17
I mean, the sex abuse allegations are much worse than cannibalism, I think. But that's my opinion. I'd rather see someone chopping on chomping on a femur than sexual abuse
Misha 07:29
free. I agree. But cannibalism is also
Tyler 07:35
it's all bad. I mean, it's up there. But that's bad.
Misha 07:40
You're right. It's not as bad as abuse of a living person, but it is abuse of a corpse. Yeah. If you don't consent to it. I mean, you can't consent to it when you're a dead body. That's the problem. Anyway. So back to cars three. So Lightning McQueen Zab set goes on this whole very, very, very long journey to just get faster. Yeah. And then doesn't and then realizes way it takes way too long to realize that the lesson is that he should become the teacher like Doc Hudson was to him, and that he should be teaching Cruz, how, and she is the next pushy racecar. I mean, I, she's a, she is a racer at heart. And his personal trainer, because they have personal trainers, and goes on this journey with him. And she has low self esteem. And then he realizes that she is the true racer. And then at the very end, puts her in the race when he could have just been nice to her all along and realized he was old and couldn't do it and gave her motivation encouragement for much longer throughout the movie, and it would have been a better movie. So you know, an hour and 30 minutes is spent watching Lightning McQueen be sad and stupid and arrogant. And then the last 10 minutes is the whole point of the movie, where she races against Armie Hammer and wins and he's really upset about it because he's an abuser. The end? Yeah,
Tyler 09:35
just to add a little bit more, a little bit more veggie meat on those bones. So Lightning McQueen's sponsor Rusty's the to click and clack brothers the car talk guys. They sell their company that lightning races for to this rich dude Sterling played are voiced by Nathan Fillion and Cruz the trainer works for Sterling and they're trying to get lightning up to speed. But lightning goes off on this soul searching speed journey, because sterling is going to make him into a brand manager if he doesn't win or something like that, and cruise goes along, and eventually cruise becomes the new part matter. But I feel like if people haven't seen this movie, yeah, so yeah, so I agree with what you just said on a percent. Like he could have learned his lesson earlier. But we're gonna get to that with protagonist because I have maybe I have a little bit of a difference of opinion. But we'll get to the end story.
Misha 10:29
We'll get into it a little bit more with that. Yeah, so originality, it's just more of the same thing. He's racing. It gets old. Yeah. I mean,
Tyler 10:42
and it's, I feel like that's pretty common. Yeah. And I feel like that's a pretty common trope in sports movies. Like, yeah, you don't know when you when it's over? Yeah, it ain't over till it's over. But then like, you keep trying to push or whatever. I feel like that's a Yeah. And then. And then the old athlete becomes the mentor. Like, yeah, if we look at like Rocky and stuff like that. Yeah, one. Okay. So story. I think this story is not great. Right. And it's kind of tired. And, but I do like it better than the other two.
Misha 11:19
I do too. And I just wish they changed the length of the sections. Yeah, I agree with that. I liked when Cruz got to shine at the end. And like when all of that was happening, but really, it was like the last 10 minutes. And if they had shortened his a lot of his part, not learning anything, and then changed and lengthen the part where he's like, learning more about himself and coming to terms with the fact that he's like, who he is and who he could become. And he could follow in Duck Hudson's footsteps, like that whole thing where he went to go see smoky? Smoky, was a friend of Doc Hudson.
Tyler 12:07
He was dark Hudson's mentor.
Misha 12:09
Okay, so he went to go see dark Hudson's mentor. And like that whole part is where it's starts to pick up a little bit. But though everything before that took way too long. Yeah. We
Tyler 12:22
didn't need Yeah, the race at the beginning, for example, was three times as long as it needed to be just have a quick race, like scene that's tense and right in the moment, and then like, have it have Lightning McQueen crash like he did. So the reason he goes on this journey is he crashes out and burns out, just like Doc did. And then he could he hasn't tried to have a comeback. And he's not fast enough. But I think they could have that could have I totally agree. They could have cut that down and introduce
Misha 12:52
and the part where he's training at the training center, where he's like, training outside on the beach. That beach scene was like, what, 45 minutes long? Yeah. Didn't need to be
Tyler 13:07
it didn't need to be they they could have I don't know. I guess this is an editing thing they could have like, the the kernels of interest in there are the things that come up later when he's coaching crews in the clutch. So like, yeah,
Misha 13:19
there's a lot. Yeah,
Tyler 13:21
that could have been brought up putting on cut.
13:22
Yeah, exactly.
Tyler 13:24
I agree with you. I think. I mean, my opinion is like it's, it's not great. And it's, it's, you know, it's boring, but for the cars University, it's okay. So I was thinking something like a two rather than a one. Like I think it is. Notably, yes. Yeah. No, yeah. I think it is notably better than aiming.
Misha 13:43
Yes, I agree. Okay. A two. So two
Tyler 13:50
out of 10 for story. Yeah. Cool. So it ties with Brother Bear and bolt. Which I think is fair. Okay, so animation is next. All right. We gave cars for those that maybe don't remember, or skipped them? No offense. No offense taken, I mean, cars got a nine out of 10 animation because it was really strong. We gave cars to eight out of 10 because it was also good but kind of more of the same and didn't really do much innovation at least not that we novices could notice except for in the water in the beginning. So this one What did you feel about the animation and this one
Misha 14:27
I thought this was back up as like as good as the first cars the Totally agree. Okay, the crash scene, the slow motion crash scene? I mean, it was gorgeous and the scenery all of the outdoor scenery was phenomenal. Yeah,
Tyler 14:45
it was really noticeably like when when they go to the what I'm imagining were supposed to be like the Smoky Mountains. Yeah, Carolina, Tennessee. It was like holy shit. That's gorgeous. Like the fog of the mist. Yes. So beautiful.
Misha 14:57
The trees the ground Like, even when he went to see smokey, the old racetrack that he was on, they did a close up of the cement wall with the paint chipping. Holy shit, that was so good. And I'm like, so mad that these ugly cars are like spoiling the scenery.
Tyler 15:20
And the cars looked better to like, I think it's just, like incrementally they've just gotten better. Ray tracing and rendering and yeah, you
Misha 15:31
know, they had a lot of time to when was
Tyler 15:33
cars to again? Was it 2011? Yeah,
Misha 15:36
so I mean, six years right between cars two and cars three, and it shows and cars one was 2006. So this is over a decade later. And it shows it was really good. The metallic wrapping I really like
Tyler 15:53
a rap and now I know what that is after. Yeah. Like and all the little like the little touches like the beach, the sand on the beach, the mud in the there's one scene where McQueen as part of his training regimen, goes to an old dirt track that ends up being a demolition derby. And that scene like the crashing and the in the mud. All the mud effects like the mud animation. It was all very, very well done. I thought Yeah.
Misha 16:23
Yeah, I want to give it a nine. It was really good.
Tyler 16:26
I think I think it's worth the nine. Yeah, yeah, I think this is gonna I don't want to jinx it. But I think this is gonna score doing
Misha 16:33
better than the Yeah. I
Tyler 16:36
mean, honestly, I don't I want I think if it does, I won't. I won't hurt myself like cars, too. Did I was really shocked by that. But yeah,
Misha 16:44
yeah. Okay, shall we move on? Yeah,
Tyler 16:48
let's move on. Nine out of 10. Seems good for animation. Music and sound.
Misha 16:51
Okay, again, I thought this was
Tyler 16:55
better. You thought it was better than cars, two
Misha 17:00
cars, two cars one and cars two. In what way? The score. Okay. The score was really good. I actually thought it was good. And then the end credit song
Tyler 17:15
wasn't horrible. Yeah.
Misha 17:18
Yeah, it was good. And it was GARBAGE. And the last two, and then there was one song that was kind of like, you know, weird and annoying. But, you know, I felt the score was really great. And the end credit song was not horrible. I mean, the last one ever. The end credit song in cars, too. was so awful.
Tyler 17:42
But overall, we thought the score was better in cars, too. It's just that song dropped down the
Misha 17:46
score in this. Yeah, the ice.
Tyler 17:49
Okay, yeah, I came out of it thinking like it's closer to I liked the score of the second one better than first one and I thought this one was more on par with the first one but it wasn't so bad that I think it's like, should be much lower. And I think also the the non score songs that they put in, didn't detract from the movie. I just think they're just very Anna like, anodyne and yeah, like not interesting, but in cars
Misha 18:17
one and cars to the music and the songs were offensive. Yeah,
Tyler 18:21
yes, they weren't. And this wasn't now but does this okay, but does this merit a seven because no one got a six.
Misha 18:33
I just there was no good. Notable music was just right. And nothing was like, notably good. It was just, it was fine. And nothing offended me. I would say it's on par with the first one.
Tyler 18:48
Okay. Yeah, so the first one got a six. I think that's fair.
Misha 18:54
Yeah. But the seals generous to I don't remember what we were up to.
Tyler 18:57
I think it's because I mean, I didn't like it. You remember,
Misha 19:01
I thought the music match all those cheesy songs. Yeah,
Tyler 19:06
that's kind of what I was about to say. I didn't like them. But I agreed with you that they matched. This this one those cover songs like they did a Bruce Springsteen song. There was a Tom Petty song I think they they said three. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Remember that? Remember, after they meet Smokey, Smokey brings them to that bar and they meet the other old timey? Oh, yeah. Like there's one. There's one of the racers that yeah, there was a glory days was Bruce Springsteen.
19:32
So yeah. Yeah. Okay. It fits. It's fine.
Tyler 19:36
Yeah. harmless. All right. Harmless fair. I would say yeah. protagonist. Now this might be where we have a little bit of disagreement, because I know we both hated Lightning McQueen. And the first one you more than me, I think, when you really didn't like him. I didn't like him in this either. But I thought he was better. I think it's just because
Misha 19:59
of not Shares because he learned his lessons from the first one. So now he's like, but he was still acting like a dank,
Tyler 20:06
he's still he's still like trying to hold on to his glory days to quote the Bruce Springsteen song.
Misha 20:14
I just thought crawled into the back of my head. Sorry. When you say I blacked out.
Tyler 20:19
I just thought the payoff was better. Like in the first one, he learns and he becomes like a nice guy who cares about community but it all was a bit sort of cheap and fast. This
Misha 20:28
one I agree the payoff was better. This one so yeah,
Tyler 20:32
like, it really hurt him. That was really low. And then they just needed to do it, edit it better, but I think it was the journey was good. Yeah.
Misha 20:43
No, the journey was bad. But the end was good. No,
Tyler 20:48
I mean, like the overarching journey like of like the fall and the Yeah, not the all the beads. Sorry,
Misha 20:54
we had to sit for an hour and a half. No more anything worthwhile happens.
Tyler 21:00
I'm talking about the band Journey that they should have had the movie. No. Yeah,
Misha 21:06
I think yeah, I thought it was I said it was fine.
Tyler 21:08
So here's the thing because we were this hasn't happened yet. A protagonist is the same from a different movie. Do we score the protagonist differently based on this particular movie aired? Right? Okay. We don't just say we have to. Yeah, compared to himself, we
Misha 21:24
have to not compare him to himself and what we know. I think it's gotta be just a bit siloed. Yeah. Okay. movie's gonna blow the other two out of the water. Yeah,
Tyler 21:37
this is the end because he he is. Yeah, he's better in this. He's. He's still like, cocky. He's humble. He's bland. Yeah, he's a bit one. Oh,
Misha 21:48
go as high. As
Tyler 21:53
I'm scared of the number you're gonna give
Misha 21:54
shit. Now. I can't decide. Other characters.
Tyler 21:59
You just said it's a Petri dish. You got to look in the petri dish. What do you see now?
Misha 22:02
I know. I would go as high as a four. Okay.
Tyler 22:08
Okay, that's actually more conservative than I thought you were gonna go. I was thinking of five. Oh,
Misha 22:13
no, no, no, no.
Tyler 22:14
Don't think he's just like average.
Misha 22:15
No, he's worse than average. Yeah, he's still arrogant. And he still takes too long to learn any fucking lessons. And yeah,
Tyler 22:24
yeah. Okay, now I'm fine with them. So he's actually that works because he's on par with flick. Yeah, that works. Yeah, yep. Okay, yeah. Okay. Sidekick. Now all right. I I liked the sidekick. The sidekick in this case would be cruise the the trainer's racer. I just think that we needed more of her like she's a bit. She's a bit player when she should have been the star earlier. Yeah. Yes.
Misha 22:47
I wanted more of her the end with her where she starts to believe in herself where she realizes that she is a racer. Yeah, that she's like, I wanted more. Yeah, I wanted more of her. I liked her.
Tyler 22:59
Yeah, I thought she was great. I liked her from the beginning like the whole like Goofy cheery like trainer with a like, who's very dedicated. And then we find out later her backstory, but I liked it from the beginning. She was like a funny character funny for this universe, I should say. Right? She's smart. She's capable. She She Yeah, I think my favorite scene in the movie is when you think, like the what the part. That's the surprising part, I think because the most of the movie is pretty predictable. And to the point where like, as they were racing, I was pretty sure that I was getting the feeling that she was going to be like that, that McQueen was going to step down and become the mentor to her. I just didn't see it coming the way it did. Like where she beat him. And that that final practice. Yeah, right. I liked that. I liked that. She beat him and like McQueen has that moment of what do I do? And he makes the wrong decision. Yeah,
Misha 23:51
he still doesn't learn it. And I wrote at that point, like, when does this happen? When is he because we know right? Like he's like,
Tyler 23:58
actually like, if anything I liked that the movie did that because it does. It does make the queen look worse. But that makes the movie a little bit more interesting. Because if they just made her that star right there would have been more predictable. I think
Misha 24:11
it makes who cares? It makes the movie longer. Yeah, I think the what they should have more predictable. It sucks. Anyway, it sucks. Anyway,
Tyler 24:19
you're right. I think they should have made her the the the star earlier rather than rather than at that moment, but yes, yeah. Anyway,
Misha 24:30
I liked her. I
Tyler 24:31
liked her a lot. I thought you know, like a seven or something. I thought she was pretty good.
Misha 24:36
Wow, I wasn't gonna go as high as seven. I mean, I can be toxic. I couldn't
Tyler 24:42
be talked down to a six. Like who is she? Okay, yeah, it's
Misha 24:47
got a seven
Tyler 24:48
Max is a seven. But the problem with what the here's the thing Baymax didn't get a seven gotten a 10 No, no, no, no. We have to remember Baymax right? No, Hey, Max did get a 10 but Baymax is with like AP TJ Miller and all the others Yeah. In A Bug's Life, say
Misha 25:04
that name on this podcast
Tyler 25:09
so I think okay, I'm fine with the six actually, seven is
Misha 25:12
maybe too generous. We should have had more of her. Yeah, seven feels a little too generous. We should have had more of her. And I think I know that's like the editing the writing whatever it is, but like we just didn't have enough. Yeah, villain. All right. Who's the villain? The villain
Tyler 25:30
is the new car. That's a jackass. That's Armie Hammer. Armie Hammer likes to abuse and eat people just
Misha 25:38
cause annoying. The villain? Well,
Tyler 25:42
I think the movie is setting him up to be the bad guy who gets beat at the end. I also think the bad guy is Sterling. Voice by my boy. I think
Misha 25:51
actually,
Tyler 25:52
he's the bad guy.
Misha 25:53
He's Nathan Fillion.
Tyler 25:54
I think he's a charming guy. And I thought he's everything he's in. He used everything he's in. He's he's in a lot of garbage, but he's charming and everything like Firefly is arguably a good show. A lot of people don't like it. A lot of people love it. I thought it was good. He's good in that I mean, hassle hassle is a fucking awful show, but he's ever seen great in it. And he's like, like crazy watchable. He's in this new cop show. That's fucking garbage called the rookie, but I watch it because he's like, kind of charming. I'm gonna cut this out because I didn't want people of course I watch every goddamn stupid episode.
Misha 26:29
It's horrible.
Tyler 26:31
Police exactly, but yeah, so watch it but no, I think Nathan felony is just a charming dude. He's like, everything is any he lifts it up it he's one of those guys I think. All right. Like Chris Cooper, everything he's done he elephants he played smokey, who Smokey the the? The mentor of yep, yep, yep, yep. He says fish fuck fish and adaptation. Ah,
Misha 27:01
I don't think I saw that. No. Oh,
Tyler 27:04
great movie. Great movie. Okay, Meryl Streep to Nicolas Cage's for the price of one. Excellent two.
Misha 27:11
Nicolas Cage's for the price of one.
Tyler 27:16
Yeah, he plays Charlie Kaufman. Anyway. I'm
Misha 27:19
confused as to who the villain is if it's failing or Armie Hammer. I
Tyler 27:25
think it's both because it's the movies trying to the movies, trying to make us be against the cocky new kid on the block who's making Lightning McQueen irrelevant right? And it's also trying to make us be angry about like, the witch is just so fucking hypocritical because this is the third movie in a franchise but it's trying to make us angry about like, AB Yeah, and it's trying to make us a Yeah. And it's trying to make us angry about the the the the monster the who wants to brand everything like the the billionaire. Which fine. There's a nasty put. Oh,
Misha 28:00
like, isn't selling cars and cars paraphernalia and whatever. schwag Yeah, bullshit. Anyway.
Tyler 28:07
So I think it's a mix I think definitely the what is the theme lightning storm? The the bad the the the lightning
Misha 28:14
storm? Storm.
Tyler 28:16
And storm. Oh, no, Jackson Storm. Yeah, I was wrong. Yeah. I think he's supposed to be a bad guy. I think all right. It's definitely a jerk. He she don't make her likable at all. No,
Misha 28:27
I guess so. I
Tyler 28:29
feel like Did you ever watch that movie? Moneyball?
Misha 28:34
It's at the baseball so be it's a baseball
Tyler 28:36
movie. Yeah, yeah. But it's all about how. Yeah, and I don't like baseball. But I don't know why watch it. But it's actually a good movie. Anyway. I feel like this movie in some ways is John Lasseter is like response to that because the movie Moneyball without going into all the details about how like, how analytics changed baseball, like, you don't have to get all the stars you
Misha 28:58
Hey, like Kerry Washington is like doing all the running all the numbers. And that's like, how they're like draft and whatever. And yeah, these new
Tyler 29:05
cars that are beating Lightning McQueen are beating them with math, and I just feel like last year is just saying, like, like, Fuck you nerds. Like, let's go back to the
Misha 29:15
old days based on like, numbers. I don't know. Whatever. This? Yeah. I'm so glad we're done with the cars University for a while at least.
Tyler 29:32
Yeah, it's, um, can I just go back really quick to the fact that I know we've passed it. But can we just can we just take a moment and like, breathe and appreciate the fact that like, Mater wasn't in this movie that much. And he wasn't the sidekick? Yeah, just a breath of fresh air that we had cruise.
Misha 29:51
You know what? I just learned that Larry the Cable Guy. That's not his real accent.
Tyler 29:58
Yeah, he's one Nebraska. Yeah, it's a fucking put on. Yeah, yeah,
Misha 30:03
I had no idea. So he's just okay. There's this video that Steve showed me about him explaining why he does the accent. And rather than just going Yeah, it's a character I do. He gave a very strange explanation, and we should share it because it's also racist at some point. Yeah. And I can't. Yeah, it's classist, and he's racist. And it's just like, bizarre that he would be in any of these movies.
Tyler 30:39
Yeah, I mean, I think I don't know. But I think because he's pretty popular, right? He's like a pretty popular comedian. I have. I'm like, so out of fucking touch that I just, I honestly don't know. Like, I think he's pretty much selling. Or at least like 10 years ago, he was quite popular with a large segment of America. So it's like, I feel like, good. I don't know if this is but like, this might be. I don't mean this in a classist way. This is just honestly, ignorance of racing and racing culture and stuff. But like, I feel like there is like on a Venn diagram segment of like, people who like country music, like NASCAR type thing. And it's like, so this movie is trying to get customers like that, that maybe wouldn't normally watch a Pixar movie. I don't know. Does that sound totally ridiculous or, but it's their parents to Pixar. Don't, so kids will go because there are cars in it. I mean,
Misha 31:32
imagine bringing a child to the parent, and sitting in the theater, and then everyone just falling asleep wanting to go to the bathroom rather, like go and get snacks and Miss parts of the movie. Like that's how I feel. This is fine for watching at home. Because you can leave. Yeah,
Tyler 31:55
in Turkey, the cinemas the there's an intermission halfway through the movie, which it took me a while to get used to actually because it kind of cuts. That's awesome. That's the tension, but it is good for bathroom breaks and stuff. And popcorn refills.
Misha 32:09
And so you're watching a bad movie that's going on. Yeah,
Tyler 32:12
and if you're watching a bad movie, anyway, yeah, like, I don't know. I don't mean to offend anybody, but I just feel like people that listen to country music often watch NASCAR. And, I mean, this is an overgeneralization, but I'm just trying to like wrap my head around. Like the choices the choices they made. Like why Larry, the cable. So much country music. Why? Why these movies exists like as talking cars. I don't know. Anyway, so what do we give it like the villain? It's supposed to Yeah, it's supposed to be those two guys, Sterling and Jackson Storm, I think. And they're both like
Misha 32:51
one so lackluster and barely anything? Yeah, one.
Tyler 32:54
Yeah. I mean, but they're in the do we give them at least like a point for like being in the whole movie and being an antagonist for the whole movie? I guess in this case. Like, it's not so much villain as antagonists, right? Because they're not villains.
Misha 33:09
Early antagonists? I mean, I guess if that's the case, then it would be the Armie Hammer. Young racecar
Tyler 33:18
Jackson Storm. Yeah, yeah. But also Sterling because he is an antagonist for because he's pushing McQueen. Because if McQueen doesn't win, he's gonna turn him into a just a brand manager to
Misha 33:29
engage in that contract. He doesn't have to. That
Tyler 33:33
was his choice at the end. Sterling as a total jerk to two crews the real hero saying you can't race your trainer. And I just feel like they're it's like, I don't know like what movie this is like, like Revenge of the Nerds or something or those movies where it's like, the bad guy is the jock who's a jerk to you, but it's also the dean. Right? Trying to keep you in line. It's both so it's like it's both of those things. I feel like and they're they're more than like, in cars one there's a bad guy because cars one the bad guys like Chick Hicks the other race car, right?
Misha 34:10
Yeah, you're right. Okay. Okay. I would find I would give it a to that too.
Tyler 34:16
Yeah, no more than that. I'm not trying to inflate this more than it needs to be but right. I would say henchmans one because there aren't there isn't Hinch those Yeah, those two are the antagonists and that's it. Yeah. Okay. Whereas with cars too, there's a bunch of like, nefarious jalopy lemon cars that were everywhere. So yeah. Strong Female Lead.
Misha 34:38
I mean, I guess it depends if we decide that Cruz is a lead, but I don't think she is because she's like waiting, like for Lightning McQueen to give her permission to believe in herself, rather than finding it herself.
Tyler 34:59
I have this like, I know, this. This happens in like almost every movie. Like, I want to give a higher score than it probably deserves. Like I wanted to give cars to a higher score for Holly shift. Well, cool. Yeah. And like, I wanted to give a higher score to I forget what the other movie like that had a strong female character but she wasn't in any way right written as a lead but I don't even feel like this is again strong of
Misha 35:25
a character because she just kept doing what people told her male characters were telling her to do. Right. So like yeah, never believing in herself only believe in herself, like believed in herself when Lightning McQueen told her basically allowed her to and what they should have done is had her as a stronger character way earlier in the movie and made her the lead of the movie, where she is trying to overcome, like, being a better racer, and actually seeing Lightning McQueen be her trainer but like her overcoming something on her own. Yeah,
Tyler 36:08
I agree. Yeah. All right. So stinker. All right. The old one bipoc representation slash portrayal. Now, I think this movie does do a little better, does do a little bit better. In two ways. One there. I feel like there and I'm gonna throw this over to you because you probably did more research about this than I did. But there's more representation in the voice act Yes. And cast. There's also less racism like in the cars to stereotypes of every place they go.
Misha 36:42
So I thought it was the best of the three movies. And
Tyler 36:47
Cruz is like, you know, for a lot of movie like front and center, like as the sidekick and I did a deep dive about about her voice actor because I didn't know anything about her. And she's like an amazing comedian. Who chrysella Alonso who like I apologize because I don't I'm not up on like American TV and stuff, which I learned about who she is first Latina woman to create produce, right and star in her own us primetime comedy. So I think that's pretty awesome.
Misha 37:18
That is awesome.
Tyler 37:21
Unfortunately, she said yes to this movie. But hey, she's,
Misha 37:26
she's in and she's cool. Yeah. And Kerry Washington plays a role that I expect. I do two more, she played more of a role than I expected her to, which was great. I thought she was just going to sort of be there at the beginning. But she comes back. Yeah, yeah, I think it was better than the first two. Yeah, and then
Tyler 37:46
we've got all the other cat like characters that I can't even remember their names right now that are in it as well. Like the and there are some newer there are some newer characters too that are Yeah, I mean, they're they're bit parts but they're like adding a little bit of points to the so. So what do you think like this is? This is better than cars one which got a two. Yep. This is not as good as Brother Bear. Which got a four. So the brother bears like, yeah, the Brother Bear like the voice acting didn't do it. But the the the whole movie was portraying Yes, clumsily. And
Misha 38:22
here. We don't even have the opportunity to do that. Because their cars. And so if you're just having a movie with cars, you can have a much more diverse cast and hire people of color. So yeah, I think it's three is fair. Yeah.
Tyler 38:41
Okay. Fun Factor. We
Misha 38:43
get to fun factor.
Tyler 38:45
Yeah, I do have some questions for you. But I wanted to wait till later. But yeah, what are you gonna say
Misha 38:50
about this one? We were talking about the story. We sort of just glanced through it. Okay. I do have some questions. I have some for you as well. Steve wants to know, so that when they arrive to the racing center, who planted the trees? Yeah. Cuz that was the that was landscaping.
Tyler 39:10
Yeah. That there's got to be a because remember, there was in the first movie, there was a non sentient pavement vehicle. So maybe there's a non sentient vehicle that does landscaping like puts trees Why
Misha 39:24
did they put trees in
Tyler 39:29
because cars after taking over the world have learned because they we already know from the other movies got I can't believe we're doing this again. We already know from they like Americans, they like thing they like like human culture. They like listening to Hendrix. They salute the flag, okay, they, they raise the newspapers they have is
Misha 39:51
like, Oh, this is how you? This is what this place should look like. This is what we've learned from human so we'll just put these trees in.
Tyler 39:58
Yeah, they Okay. Having taken over, they still like things from the culture that they've totally extirpated. So
Misha 40:06
okay, now, with all this schwag they were selling. What's the grill for? Who? What is the grill for eats grilled food? Yep. Yeah. They had mud tire parts and things for cars, but a grill like a George Foreman grill.
Tyler 40:26
Yeah. Yeah, I just, you know, at this point, I just don't know.
Misha 40:33
Now, I should have brought this out. I forgot to mention this during the bipod category. When they were in the racing Center. He went into this room where I'm guessing it was a massage therapist or aromatherapy or like Zen. Okay, now on the wall. Did you notice and they showed this in the credits. Karma stay? Yep. Karma stay. Karma stay. I can't even say it because it's like, that's cartrawler appropriation.
Tyler 41:03
So, so we know so cartripple appropriation love it if I could love it. That almost beats your mic car cane thing from cars to so we know that the Pope exists as a Catholic car. We know that right?
Misha 41:21
Yeah, that yes. So now we know that in the cars universe, cars appropriate other cultures? Well, we
Tyler 41:33
know we call cultures Yeah, we know that because well, they took over the world. We went to Japan we went to Italy and cars to we went to why? And they weren't they had taken over those countries. So
Misha 41:45
but it's like there's still I'm maybe I'm just extra personally offended by that bullshit. Yeah,
Tyler 41:52
- I mean, I also not a fan for sure. It's just it's all like just so mind bogglingly ridiculous to me that it's like I yeah, in that karma state thing that I was so hurt by this whole experience that that didn't offend me at the moment, but yeah, okay.
Misha 42:09
I have more questions. Okay. When they went to the mud race, they said no, swearing, it's family night. Yeah. What are car children? Who are families? Why? Why are their car children and we
Tyler 42:23
had this conversation last time because it brought up mothers and children. So we don't know. I mean, we just we we saw
Misha 42:32
mothers and sisters they brought up but not case we
Tyler 42:36
see a child car too in the crowd in this one with the Lightning McQueen. Oh,
Misha 42:40
you're right, the little one who's a fan?
Tyler 42:43
Is he a micro machine? Does he like?
Misha 42:46
So do they like because it's I don't know. Do they grow?
Tyler 42:49
Who knows? I don't know what's going on. That's
Misha 42:51
what I'm asking. Do they grow up? Do they physically grow? Like, also, what's a crab sanctuary?
Tyler 42:59
I was okay. So here's my question. She when they're on the beach, she says she's she didn't want to crush the crab. Was that a real crab? Or was that a car crab? Like the car beetles in the car?
Misha 43:11
I thought maybe he thought maybe it was
Tyler 43:14
a real crab because they didn't they didn't show them they didn't show him so here's my thinking. Yeah, I mean they might be car they might be card crabs like they look like little car crabs. But what if what if the ocean survived? Because we don't see any we don't see any like underwater thing. What if the depths of the ocean creatures of the earth survive the car onslaught and what of crabs as crabs as we know them? That
Misha 43:43
is very interesting. Because I think they are real crabs. And here's why. Because they are at a sign a little bit later. Like and it says crab sanctuary. What's your crab sanctuary? If it's I mean, they're not going to have a car crab sanctuary. Maybe they would Yeah, maybe they are. But to me, it seemed like that was an inkling of real crabs. I don't know. We'll never know they didn't show them.
Tyler 44:13
I wanted to I got hopeful I got hopeful they didn't show them and every time they've shown smaller versions of things they've still been cars I got hopeful that like the SeaWorld, the ocean survived the the the apocalypse, the car apocalypse. Speaking of which, another thing in the training center. In the training center, they show those younger cars on the treadmills. One gets blast one gets blasted in the face with
Misha 44:45
flies.
Tyler 44:45
Are those real flies? Are those like flies inside? Yeah, they're like the three younger cars and they're when when cruises training them.
Misha 44:56
Oh, I missed that. No, those are proud Probably car flies.
Tyler 45:01
So one of them she's like, Yeah, but they didn't look like um, I don't want to say go back and watch it again. But for those who watch it,
Misha 45:09
yeah, let us know what you think about this in the comments.
Tyler 45:13
They, they spit like real flies out of the machine, it looks like real flies. But who knows?
Misha 45:19
I'm very confused about the lifespan of cars. So smokey says, son of a gun didn't talk to me for 50 years. So my original theory that this takes place in the future. And then they became sentient. Afterwards as old cars right? is negated by that. Because that means for 50 years before Doc Hudson he was sentient for those 50 years. Okay. All these old cars just keep fixing themselves up, I guess. So why would a car die if they don't crash? Well, like how to duck Hudson die?
Tyler 46:10
How to duck Hudson die is a good question because cars crash and they survive. Cars died in this a lot of cars died in cars to when they were like vaporized with electromagnetic pulses or whatever. But Doc Hudson just like
Misha 46:24
what's the lifespan of a car like the natural? Well,
Tyler 46:28
here's the thing that we talked about in the first movie is this this time period that we're in sorry to rehash things, folks. But like, this time period we're in we're at a point in the future where cars have become sentient taken over. And we're in the future where they have they have they can look back at nostalgia at their own route. 66 remember, right, like what he says, For a small town Americans? Yeah, so we're like, that was of incentive for a while?
Misha 46:56
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I think instead of this is the future, this is a pair. This has to be a parallel timeline. Oh, okay. Right, because that means have been have always been sentient. So this is like rewriting history? I don't think so. He's for the past 50 something years, 55 years.
Tyler 47:21
Well, no, that doesn't I think like they're not speaking for 50 years. Doesn't doesn't negate the fact that like, this all takes place in a future where humans have been destroyed. Oh,
Misha 47:31
so it's like, even further future. Okay.
Tyler 47:35
Yeah. So like, let's say this is, this is 3017 and 2000 50s? Are the are the 2500 50s are the time that they're pining for. That's like the good old days. When, when there there was a small town. It's that's all in the distant future, that they're copying our nostalgia for the for the modern Cold War era. Yeah. Got it. That's my thinking. Otherwise, it makes no sense. But what still makes no sense. It's still mysteries. How does doc die? Does he because he just like, drives off into the sunset and like just dies that he just decides to die? Like,
Misha 48:13
I don't know. That's the thing because he wasn't racing. Like we know you can be murdered.
Tyler 48:18
I mean, that's know that racing is a Bloodsport, right, yeah, we know you
Misha 48:23
can die from crashing, you could be bombed. You could be electrocuted, but how to be
Tyler 48:31
crushed into one of those cars squirt rubber tubes. But
Misha 48:35
natural death isn't a thing that we know of. Yeah, because then doc would still be alive with all his old friends. Yeah. Who seemed to just live forever. Like it's no big deal. So how did doc die?
Tyler 48:52
Yeah, it's a mystery to him.
Misha 48:54
It's a is a conspiracy. Who
Tyler 48:57
killed him? Yeah, that's maybe a better thing. I honestly I think it was probably made her somehow because fuck that guy. Because Mater
Misha 49:04
was getting jealous of the relationship between Lightning McQueen and dark Hudson and made her killed him.
Tyler 49:11
Yep, we already know that Mater was jealous of Sally and yeah, exactly of Sally and lightning, but he hasn't been able to bring himself to kill Sally because he likes her too. And maybe he's hot for her something maybe?
Misha 49:23
Because he was smart was just like oh, Mater's a fucking idiot.
Tyler 49:26
Yeah, because he is okay. Yeah, Mater. It's made or made or killed him Yeah. Okay, how do you think he did it? With his hook somehow or his big stupid teeth?
Misha 49:37
I was thinking a Ziggy he probably mood at the cows or whatever. He does like to get them all and had them trampled doc. Oh,
Tyler 49:45
Lion King style. Oh, wow. Okay, I like it. I mean, I don't like it. It's awful. But yes, yeah. Speaking of timeline, when maybe I miss read this But I caught was catching some like, like segregation and women's rights act like chatter when they met those older cars that were Smokey's friends? Yes, the woman car. The lady car was talking about how she likes dark, but he doesn't like FAST Women, and she couldn't race because she's a woman. So she had to, like steal a number timeline
Misha 50:25
is wrong. So I think I think that they are actually cars from a merit like American 50 1950s. Okay, okay. But this takes place in the way future, and they survived. And so it's still the future. So like, it's still, so I thought it was the near future. But what I think it is, I think this is still like the year 3000. And they didn't become sentient until the future, and it's like really far in the future. So they still have these ingrained ideas and memories and of what the 1950s and like, or even earlier, what those time periods are just like because they're they're actually that old, but their sentience didn't start until much later until in the future.
Tyler 51:22
That might be Wow, okay, yeah, that could I mean, honestly, that might be the most. So let's say understandable version. But then where does sentience come from?
Misha 51:36
So 20 This is what I'm saying. So like, Elon Musk, 2030
Tyler 51:41
Oh, my arm right in cars. One you said it was this is all musk. Yeah, yeah. They
Misha 51:46
make the first they make the first robot AI car. And that car grows in its ability to
Tyler 51:58
Oh, yeah. We talked about. That's the Chrysler that's the bank. Chrysler. Yes. Heart. Yes.
Misha 52:05
Right. But
Tyler 52:06
the manufacturer capital M cray.
Misha 52:07
Okay. So it's not Elon Musk. It's the Chris Wright, the manufacturer is the CEO of or the person, the actual engineer, which I think makes more sense. The person who created the AI car is the manufacturer. Okay. Like data's dad. Yeah. Okay. Then that AI car. Can't
Tyler 52:35
believe I didn't mention her, by the way, just data, not lore to police
Misha 52:39
data. And Laura's Dad, thank you. I didn't in this case, there's only one and it's a Chrysler. Yep. That's why it's the son of the manufacturer. So not both sons.
Tyler 52:53
And then Chrysler goes around giving other cars sentience, or does he start owning a bunch of nonsense cars and making sentient? Okay,
Misha 53:01
no Chrysler is Chrysler starts proselytizing, and it stills AI, and intelligence into other cars. And then the proslat activation is about killing humans. And this doesn't happen in the future. But then they give sentience to these old cars. And then time passes. 5060 years, okay. Then we get to cars. One, so cars one takes place, and 2020 8020 8020 90. You see, because we need at least 50 years to go by, for smokey to say son of a gun didn't talk to me for 50 years. So this is our
Tyler 53:51
new food. Because that's that's the he didn't talk to him for two years since his crash docks crash in the past.
Misha 53:58
But the past is still our future. The past two years. Sure. I know, but they will be harder. I know. But it still has to be in the future. So 2030 And then they are sentient plus another what? 10 years for them to wipe out all animals in humans. Okay, so 2040 then they're like friends, they live their lives 1020 years, then 50 years they don't talk to each other and then here we are. That's cars one Gotcha. Okay, started getting the letters about Lightning McQueen. So this is like, you know, between 2080 and 220 100
Tyler 54:36
Okay, so these cars really do last a while thing and they're like we also need to remember like for them to be like alive and talking and walking and moving around. They're constantly running. Like they're, they're on all the time and
Misha 54:52
cars. No, we've seen them sleep.
Tyler 54:56
Well yeah, but like when they're when they're talking and moving and doing all this stuff, they're like on and running. So like how do they last that?
Misha 55:05
You walk around? I don't know. They have treadmills two
Tyler 55:11
or four elf lifespans, I guess. Yeah, they probably
Misha 55:14
fix themselves up and they fix themselves up and like they know how to fix them. No.
Tyler 55:18
They know how to fix themselves better than we could ever fix some pro grabs. Yeah, right. Okay. Because the reason I was wondering is because she mentioned how she couldn't raise because she's a woman and in the Car Next Door, who wasn't didn't really talk at all. But he said something like, back then a lot of us couldn't do stuff. And they make it sound like he's like an African American car or something. That's the vibe I got. So I was like, what? Oh, like segregation.
Misha 55:43
They're saying they're still remembering when they were just cars. That's what I think they're still have these ingrained memories. These like, you know, like, what do you call it? So
Tyler 55:56
then if she's just a car, why would she not have been able to race?
Misha 56:00
Maybe her person was also a lady, her racecar driver. Okay,
Tyler 56:04
so she's just getting she's gotten the memories from her.
Misha 56:07
Have we talked about this? What if they take on the personalities of the human they eat? We
Tyler 56:14
we we breezed over it and went mad and then maybe forgot about it. But I think we did talk about it in the first one. Like, like, there's a possibility. Oh, there's the hippie guy.
Misha 56:26
Racer. Yeah, yeah. And then they ate them. And then their soul went into their computer parts or their like mechanics. And
Tyler 56:35
then maybe that's why the the ocean has been left untouched. Although we have to imagine that there are submarines sentient submarines in this world because of cars too. Oh,
Misha 56:44
yeah. Well, have we seen boats? We saw boats. Yeah,
Tyler 56:47
so like warships and a tugboat type thing? Yeah. i Yeah, maybe there was a submarine car stupid. I don't remember. So okay. So yeah, all right. I have I had something for you. I don't know. Okay, we can cut it if it's not good. But I had a little like, cars in review. Were cars in rearview mirror. No shit. Cars in rearview mirror.
Misha 57:15
That was awesome. That was great.
Tyler 57:19
I wanted to see because this these movies are such garbage. And it was all a mess in my head. I wanted to see like, if we could remember the names of characters. I'm not going to look at or both of us. Most of us. I'm not going to look either, right? So you'll help. So let's start easy. For example. The protagonist of cars one and three Lightning McQueen. Lightning McQueen, his sidekick and cars one
Misha 57:47
meter old name may turn Tow
Tyler 57:52
Mater.
Misha 57:55
What? Oh, like a tomato. Tomato. I say tomato
Tyler 58:00
and after cars to Sir Tow Mater.
Misha 58:05
That's right. That's right. Okay.
Tyler 58:07
lightnings girlfriend.
Misha 58:10
Sally, full
58:11
name dick. Well,
Misha 58:12
that's an Arrested Development. Well
Tyler 58:20
they were confusing her with Emily Mortimer's character Holly stick well, from cars to you
Misha 58:26
shouldn't have. Because you told me there's
Tyler 58:29
fake girl how you gave it.
Misha 58:30
I'm not gonna remember that in a minute. Okay. Sally,
Tyler 58:32
the lawyer the Porsche. Yeah. Sally Carrera, Sally. Sally Carrera is her last name because she's a Porsche. Carrera is a car.
Misha 58:43
Oh, okay. Sally Carrera docks. Full Name Doc Hudson.
Tyler 58:48
Doc Hudson. I will accept fabulous I will accept that because I don't fabulous Hudson Hornet the Hudson Hornet was a fabulous Hudson Hornet
Misha 59:00
This is racing name. They talked about it in the third one that he was the fabulous Hudson Hornet and then at the end, Lightning McQueen changes his paint to blue the same blue and makes himself the fabulous Lightning McQueen.
Tyler 59:16
The Fabulous Lightning McQueen but that's because of that. I thought I thought the Hudson Hornet was not fabulous. I thought it was something else.
Misha 59:23
I love that because when I was in what was it fourth or fifth grade? I was part of an all flutist quartet. Oh, we were called the fabulous
Tyler 59:35
flutes. Nice.
Misha 59:37
We didn't last very long because of like, child girl drop drama, but we did do one performance together.
Tyler 59:44
I mean also that's that's a lot of flutes. That's flutes, flutes, just flutes.
Misha 59:50
That's a lot different way to play different parts.
Tyler 59:53
Did you have different flutes?
Misha 59:57
Or a single flute? No, I mean like was it like my mouth on the whole and then girls touching the buttons. No,
Tyler 1:00:03
- That would be hilarious if that's how you did. No, I meant like a one man band but opposite. I meant like are there different site like for example I played saxophone there's alto, tenor, baritone soprano saxophone or they're different students are
Misha 1:00:19
but listen, I don't know. I don't remember actually NASA. I don't remember if there are
Tyler 1:00:23
okay. What's the hippie vans name?
Misha 1:00:29
Jesus like I wouldn't remember that. Ah,
Tyler 1:00:32
first of all, why? George Carlin but George Carlin passed away so they replaced him.
Misha 1:00:37
I have no idea. I've no idea. I don't I've never heard it does it? I've never heard this name in my life.
Tyler 1:00:44
They said it a couple times. It's Fillmore.
Misha 1:00:47
Nope. Doesn't ring a bell. Okay,
Tyler 1:00:50
I'll give you a softball. The two Italian cars that are approved for lighting. Yep.
Misha 1:00:57
And now the way G
Tyler 1:00:59
Yeah, I think it's so easy, isn't it? Luigi and Greta? Yeah,
Misha 1:01:06
my uncle Guido
Tyler 1:01:08
was the one that always speaks Italian, the forklift. And Luigi is the Fiat Tony Shalhoub. Okay. There's too much. Yeah, yeah. We talked about cars when I was 20 sherbets. Monk. It's
Misha 1:01:21
okay. So good from
Tyler 1:01:24
the hit uso USA show wings as well. Everybody's favorite TV show. Okay, one more. The, the name of the car. Sorry, two more the name of the car. That's the bad guy in the first movie that's voiced by Michael Keaton. And the first one but not in the other one. Oh, chicks
Misha 1:01:41
Hicks, because I was like, oh, it's not like, it's not Michael Keaton anymore. Because of course, why would you ever commit to doing that? Yeah. And yeah,
Tyler 1:01:50
Chick Hicks knows. Yeah, cuz Chick Hicks. Yeah. Sorry. I have another one to the car. The boss car that wears animal horns on his front.
Misha 1:02:01
Oh, okay. I actually have a note about Tech's so the I don't know if it's the same for all the movies. But in this one, the actor who played Tex was humpy Wheeler.
Tyler 1:02:17
That was a good time to take a drink of water.
Misha 1:02:22
Be humpy Wheeler humpy hobby hobby.
Tyler 1:02:28
Wait, is that a nickname? Or is that?
Misha 1:02:30
I mean, I
Tyler 1:02:31
hope so. Like Buster or Tex. Oh
Misha 1:02:34
no, it just said it said quit like it listed the actors is name is humpy Wheeler humpy Wheeler. I like that his name is wheel or Yeah, that's good wheels. And a speed hump. OB Wheeler.
Tyler 1:02:51
Man. That can't be his real name.
Misha 1:02:55
They don't even have like, free. It might be like Humphrey in his I like them going by hobby.
Tyler 1:03:02
humpy Wheeler. Okay, what else is he and former president and general manager of Charlotte motor speedway. So he's one of these people. So he's one of these like racing people like Jeff Gordon that they brought in and Lewis Hamilton who did the voice of Hamilton the AI
Misha 1:03:18
notice that Yeah.
Tyler 1:03:22
Okay, interesting. Okay, and one more Mike. Michael my car canes character's name in cars too. I know this one without looking.
Misha 1:03:35
Okay, give me a second it's I'm
Tyler 1:03:40
asking you this one because I just remembered it a but b You never said it in the in the last episode you just had my car came the whole time. And I had to keep saying to clarify his name just in case everyone was confused.
Misha 1:03:53
Oh bad. Is speed oh
Tyler 1:04:06
this is kind of a hard if you like these names. There's really wacko.
Misha 1:04:13
speed, speed. Speed, you know, you give up trunk? Yeah, just tell me
Tyler 1:04:24
Botsman Finn McMissile so you weren't far off? Yeah, it was a bunch of just random words thrown onto a Scrabble board.
Misha 1:04:35
I remember now Emily Mortimer I cannot remember the name of the car she I told you a minute would go by all the
Tyler 1:04:44
shift will stick well shift well.
Misha 1:04:46
Still
Tyler 1:04:49
shift Well yeah. Convinced? Yeah. can be confusing. Yeah, boy. Okay, well, let's, let's move on to four On factor.
Misha 1:05:02
This was just as bad as all the other ones. It was less fun than the spy one. Yeah.
Tyler 1:05:09
And the spy one wasn't one Yeah, I think it's a one year like,
Misha 1:05:15
Why? Why this movie also they do a montage. So once Cruz starts to believe in herself, or once, Lightning McQueen realizes that he needs to be the teacher. They do a montage of the movie we just watched. Yeah, we just watched we're currently watching this movie. We get it. We were watching this movie right now, you do not have to have a montage. The whole movie should have been a montage. And instead, they added more on the same movie. We just watched to the movie.
Tyler 1:05:52
And when he does that, and he's giving it her advice, and she says, like, you know, find your opening or whatever, just like when they were in the stampede. I really didn't like how like she visualized the cars changing into the tractor cows again, just because I didn't like that. I like them. Because I mean, she's not a yeah, she's not a child. She's like a fully adult car. Whatever the fact that means she can just like visualize her opening. She knows that she doesn't need me. Yeah. Anyway, I say one for fun factor in she she was 22.
Misha 1:06:20
Did she?
Tyler 1:06:23
Oh my gosh. Then that. Okay, so then
Misha 1:06:29
you think this was something else I've watched? I think
Tyler 1:06:31
I don't remember an age. But I watched this in like a feverish cold. Like today, so like, I don't. Okay,
Misha 1:06:39
I will say the lat the race at the end. Where she was racing, it was slightly more fun than everything else, but not, but for the whole movie. Um, I was really unhappy that I had to watch it while I was watching it. Yeah. Just really boring again.
Tyler 1:06:58
Yeah, I did. I mean, it was pretty predictable. But I was rooting for her to win. And more than I was like, rooting for McQueen to win when he started racing. So yeah, so I don't know, I still think it's a one or two. I don't know. I don't know. I think I'd still think it's not as far as fun. It's better in some categories. But I don't think it's more fun than the other movies. doesn't sit right.
Misha 1:07:26
Why did the other two
Tyler 1:07:28
minus So here's to recap. Cars, one gotta negative three for the the world that this is in like, it's just like when you sit and think about it, it's sort of cosmic core levels of creepiness. The next one got minus four because it was more offensive. It was like the minus three baseline for the world. Plus the offensiveness of like the Japanese and Italian parts and stuff like that. So this one I think should go back to minus three because it's still the baseline horrors of this world want
Misha 1:07:59
to I want to take off a point for that. carceral appropriation. I was really bad. I get really,
Tyler 1:08:08
I'm fine. I'm fine with that.
Misha 1:08:11
Okay,
Tyler 1:08:12
I just think it shouldn't. Yeah, so that's, that's pumping it back up to like cars. Yeah, that's fine. And effervescence, zero, I think. I don't think it's gonna be
Misha 1:08:24
alright. Does not well, all right. How do you think this,
Tyler 1:08:28
folks, cars one got 25 out of 110? Why? 110? Ask her lawyers, cars to get 26 out of 110. Somehow, even though everyone in the world says it's worse than cars one. We definitively said it's better than cars one. I think cars three cars three is going to be without doing the math. I think part three is going to be like 30 out of 110 Okay, ready? Yeah.
Misha 1:08:55
Oh my god. It's a 32 to 32 if the bolt it ties. What is the title? Atlantis with? Okay, okay, so I like Atlantis. Do
Tyler 1:09:13
you like Atlantis more? But we did have a lot of problems Atlantis. Yeah, I think Atlantis is also people are gonna fucking crucify us. Atlantis is one of those movies that's being rediscovered by people and there's like videos like Atlantis is like the hidden secret gem following but if you've really like go back and like the movie is like not good. Good it's like this not good Yeah, it's like I don't know it doesn't it doesn't glorifies imperialism more than it should even though it's like trying to say something about it and like in a Dances with Wolves way it's not let's not rehash all that go back and listen to that episode. Yeah. I can't believe this got a 32 I can't believe it. Fuck
Misha 1:09:56
- That is way better than cars one and
Tyler 1:10:00
all this proves though, is that we are like really good at our job. Because like, here's the thing. Yes. And because like last time last week we I started crying when I realized it's what we gave cards to. But that I had to think about it. I was like, Okay, well, this just means like, we can't get stuck in our we got to keep moving. We got to keep zigging and zagging and keep, like, hit the brakes soon. And like, take that Tokyo Drift slide. And like, like, don't rest on our biases. We got to keep moving forward. And so this just teaches us another lesson. Yeah,
Misha 1:10:31
yeah. And, you know, I think I'm just really grateful to be done. Thinking about cars.
Tyler 1:10:40
Before we finish though, can I read a particularly egregious and annoying review? Not the whole thing, just like a piece? Yeah,
Misha 1:10:49
yeah. So last night, I totally forgot I had to watch this movie. And then it dawned on me and I scream groud so loudly it startled my cats a lot. I just like that's too much. I can't put the alphabetical order thing is what did I said you know, all these other all of these other people that watch Disney movies do it in chronological right so there's all this time in between but you know what? We did it the correct way. Yeah. Cars cars, two cars three bow. Okay, you want to read that review?
Tyler 1:11:28
Yeah. I do want to read the review. Yeah. So I'm not gonna read the whole thing. But my the stupid little thing I said about like, taking the turns and whatever just reminded me of how many reviews these movies have that are just filled with bad puns. The title this is from news.com.au. So Australia, I think, by Vicki Roach, June 24 2017 Lightning queen, lightning queen, not Lightning McQueen, so she gets it wrong right off. Lightning queen. Lightning queen has a lot of miles on the clock, but don't rule out the old pro of the race just yet. And then later, just one line. I'm not going to read the whole goddamn thing. But like, now I lost it now. Returning to the iconic backroads nostalgia of the original film Cars three puts the flashy unpopular middle film squarely in its rear vision mirror. I think that's maybe just an Ozzy thing, instead of rearview mirror. The route that the filmmakers take might be familiar, but after gunning the corners like pros, I just hate stuff like that. Like, I'm sorry, to the writer, but like just because it's a Cars movie, just because just because it's a Cars movie, you don't need to pack in that many funds. Anyway. Well, gang, thanks for sticking with us. We really appreciate it. And we, we love to hear from you. If you want to send us an email, our email address is much Abu about [email protected]. You can tell us what you think. Tell us Hey, you wrong I thought cars two was the best movie ever. Yeah, sure, let's do this. If you want to all opinions,
Misha 1:13:08
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Tyler 1:13:15
Yeah. And you know if if where you listen to us has the option to leave a review that would be greatly appreciated on like, Spotify doesn't I think but like if you're on Apple or whatever, whatever Apple conveyor medium, they is used these days. iTunes doesn't exist anymore. As far as I know. Things are going the way of the buffalo as all cars intended to be. And then thanks, everybody, until next time when we watch Chicken Little Chicken Little I know nothing about except for the old tail. So who knows if this what this is gonna be like,
Misha 1:13:49
Oh, I'll tell a story about that when we get to it. Okay.
Tyler 1:13:53
Well, until next time, everybody. All right.
Misha 1:13:56
Bye, y'all.